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Ft. Lauderdale:
How about "you wern't shit on the streets" we never really said it except in jest from what I can remember.   ::hehehmm::

GregFL:

--- Quote ---On 2005-01-10 12:23:00, Ft. Lauderdale wrote:

"How about "you wern't shit on the streets" we never really said it except in jest from what I can remember.   ::hehehmm:: "

--- End quote ---



Funny how different we remember things. I remember one instance, and it was reported in the press, where a little 13 year old girl was stood up and screamed at over and over. One of the things screamed at her was (by the chicks, the guys never said this)..."you weren't shit on the streets. You probably couldn't even fuck yourself with a coke bottle". She was left in tears after being told how worthless and unlovable she was "on the streets". This was not an exception but rather the rule of the day and most kids sat in constant fear, never knowing when their turn to get publically lambasted was coming up.  

That line, the coke bottle one, was used to sexually berate girls constantly. Also, guys would yell at girls "On the streets, I would of just used you for sex. No one could have liked you, you weren't shit on the streets". Or "I knew you on the streets, you weren't shit. You were a punk, a joke, and  everyone laughed at you behind your back".

Ft Lauderdale, this "you weren't shit on the streets"  line was a constant recurring theme but seldom funny. In fact, it was frightening. In additon, It was most often used to berate and humiliate people into submission in front of the group during "come down on you sessions".

Dude, how about doing me a favor. Think back to the "boys Rap" times and then think about how some of these young boys were made to confess their sexuall secrets there, and then were yelled and screamed at in these "boys raps" for the very things they confessed to earlier.

Please comment on this for me. Thanks.

Ft. Lauderdale:
Sorry-  I never heard anyone confess sexual secrets in a rap... Nor did I ever hear anyone made fun of for anything sexual.  
The coke bottle thing -I find very repulsive.  
If this went on in St.Pete I'm glad I was never there.

cleveland:
Yes, I remember things like that too. "You couldn't even do it with a coke bottle." "I would have eaten you for breakfast on the streets" "There's nothing pretty about going to prison and getting fucked in the ass..."

Stuff like that DID get said. Usually when someone was way out of line, or when people were trying to scare a newcomer who had an attitude. I do remember people crying.

This kind of thing was pretty rare, though. Usually there was more joking, laughing instead of shame. But the harsh stuff was there...I'm surprised Ft. L. doesn't remember. i bet he's blocked it out, 'cause he's a gentle guy. Even if he was mad at some kid I never remember him saying more than, "oh boy, I'm so mad!"

I definitely got some of that harsh stuff when I was a newcomer.

Sexual secrets - on the one hand you were supposed to tell 'at least one other human being' everything; on the other, if I brought up anything sexual to staff I was told to 'get my head out of the gutter." I don't think we had Boy's Raps when I was there...

GregFL:
in 73, they would several times a week seperate the girls and boys into groups at the far end of the building. Then the sexual talk and confession would go on. Boys would be stood up and berated for being virgins.

This was some of the most terrifying times I had there. We used to do it at the end of the building and several times I thought of running thru the guarded door.

I told a story somewhere on this site about a kid admitting to giving some older guy a blow job. That same night they stood him up in group and came down hard on him and kept bringing this up. He soon disappeared and was never spoken of again.

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