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Antigen:
Anon, why would a woman who'd had an abortion necessarily require a guided healing process? What if she's over it? What if she doesn't have a problem with it at all, and yet wants to come back home to Mother Church?

Not saying the Catholic church is anywhere near as damaging, insular or militant as the Seed was. But honestly, I think Catholic Guilt has a listing in the DMV.

Funny thing, though. The church you describe (now) sounds a whole lot like the Haitian Catholic churches down in So. Fl. It always goes that way, too. The innovators are always the more recent converts.

Tonight, we're pretending to celebrate something to do w/ All Saints Day while, secretly, observing some Druid cultural traditions for this day. The Catholic Church definitely adapts to the times.
I can very well do without God both in my life and in my painting, but I cannot, suffering as I am, do without something which is greater than I am, which is my life, the power to create.
--Vincent Van Gogh, Dutch painter
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Anonymous:
That "body of Christ" stuff seems so primitive and provincial. The idea that there is only ONE portal to salvation with arbitrary moral values/rites you have to follow to achieve it is just so simplistic.  The belief that God only accepts you into his kingdom if you worship him and take his son into your heart (regardless of your compassionate nature or good works) strikes me as petty.  When is society going to outgrow this narrow thinking?

Anonymous:
give it a hundred years or so, and the christ myth will join the other god myths such as Zeus, Mythra, Poseidon and the hundres of others that have transfered from deity to legend.

Anonymous:
Antigen, Anon, & Anon,
First, a lot of women don't see the fetus as anything. At abortion clinics they are told, "it's just a blob of tissue". I personally don't believe that because I have seen the miracle of birth with 4 children. Of course a women can heal on their own.I did. I was just saying the Chuch has help for women whom are laden with guilt. No one is denied going to the Catholic Church. We even have gay couples who go to Mass on Sunday's. As far as the only way to get to Heaven is to be saved, that is mostly Fundalmental churches. Yet today the Catholic Churches are teaching about Christ. God loves all people, and He will be the final Judger. Not me, not you, not anyone else. The "Jesus thing" has been around 2005 yrs, even though Jesus only mimistered for a little over 3 yrs. So, anon, why is it that you think it will go away in 100 yrs. It never will, because people all around the world, by their own choice, believe Jesus is The Way, the Truth and the Life. As He said, "No one get's to the Father accept through Me."
This is all I have to say on this subject. Everyone is entitled to believe what they choose to believe, and no one, including myself is standing in judgement of anothers beliefs.

cleveland:
While I am happy that you find support in your church I am sad to see that the vatican issues yet another challenge to gay priests, as if all gay men were pedophiles and all straight men (and we are only talking about men here) were incapable of it. I have catholic friends who have stopped going to church because of what they see as the hypocrasy of the bishops.

I read in the paper today that the methodist church defrocked a female minister for admitting that she is in a long-term, committed lesbian relationship; meanwhile, they have reinstated a minister who had lost his chuch because he had denied membership to a man who was gay and refused to see it as a sin.

Personally, I find debates like this are degrading to whatever message Jesus tried to have about 'love they neighbor as thyself' and I also remember that he was skeptical about religion - that is why I cannot call myself a christian today (well, I never have).

Personally I am opposed to any authoritarian system that tells me that 'they' have the answer. So most religions turn me off because many (but not all) do this.

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