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« on: September 30, 2004, 07:54:00 AM »
You say that we are winning in Iraq. Senator Chuck Hagel, a Republican, says, "We're in deep trouble." Gen. John P. Abizaid is asking for more troops. Secretary of State Colin Powell admits the insurgency is getting worse. The C.I.A. is pessimistic. Billions of dollars that were earmarked for reconstruction have been diverted for security. Insurgent attacks have quadrupled. Deaths of coalition troops are up. Significant chunks of Iraq are under enemy control. You have no viable military plan to make sure the January elections proceed peacefully and no political plan to reconcile competing factions. Your argument for re-election is that this is too dangerous a time to change direction. But since the direction is obviously wrong, don't we at least need to change drivers??

How has the Iraq war made us safer, if it transformed Iraq from a place whose military was surrounded and contained, into what you have repeatedly called the "central front" in the war on terror?

? Your exit strategy for Iraq begins with successful elections in January. And yet there are many obstacles to those elections, especially in areas where the insurgents hold power. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld says it doesn't matter if the people in certain regions are unable to vote. Secretary Powell says elections will not be credible unless all Iraqis take part. Do you agree with Secretary Rumsfeld that partial elections are acceptable, or with Secretary Powell that the elections must be nationwide? ?

You have proclaimed that "freedom is on the march" around the globe, but freedom in Russia is in rapid retreat. During the 2000 campaign, you blasted President Vladimir Putin of Russia for "killing children" in Chechnya. Mr. Putin has now been fighting terrorism for years and failing dismally. What lessons do you draw from Russia's experience when considering our own options for fighting terror?

? Compared with when you took office, are we more safe or less safe on the Korean Peninsula? What concrete progress have you made during the past in preventing North Korea from building nuclear weapons?
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2004, 11:33:00 AM »
Here's another- Why aren't Corporations paying their fair share of taxes?

QUICK NEWS TIDBITS
According to the New York Times, the largest corporations in the U.S. have been paying fewer taxes than ever before, since new Bush Administration tax policies were enacted. The 275 wealthiest U.S. companies generated $1.1 trillion in revenue from 2001 to 2003, but only paid taxes on half of that. More...

http://www.organicconsumers.org/corp/taxes092304.cfm
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2004, 01:05:00 PM »
What's the first and most impotant rule?

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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2004, 01:12:00 PM »
Uhhhh... Do Unto Others?
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2004, 01:48:00 PM »
Do onto others????????????????  You're started over!!   Come on now - Ginger stand up!    What is the first and most important rule?
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2004, 08:58:00 PM »
dont stick your dick in a blender.  Basic. Next.
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2004, 09:05:00 AM »
They don't want to be asked about this either.

http://www.registerguard.com/news/2004/ ... .0930.html
September 30, 2004
Election a 'win-win situation' for secretive Bonesmen  ::stab::
Reportedly, members hold weekly sessions in which they talk about their sex lives, which some say helps forge a strong fraternal bond. The initiates have privileges beyond those enjoyed by fellow students - including a near million-dollar
clubhouse, a private island and access to a distinguished and powerful cadre of fellow Bonesmen.

Three Bonesmen have occupied the Oval Office: William Howard Taft (who also served as chief justice of the Supreme Court), George Herbert Walker Bush, and his son. Members have included
more than 20 U.S. senators, three U.S. Supreme Court justices and myriad lesser officials.

The order is legendary in its promotion of its members above all others. As a Yale alumnus noted in 1905 about the senior secret society system at Yale, "the best man doesn't always win."

George W. Bush has appointed 11 fellow Bonesmen to government jobs: Evan Griffith Galbraith, adviser to the U.S. mission to NATO; William Henry Donaldson, chairman of the Securities and
Exchange Commission; George Herbert Walker III, U.S. ambassador to Hungary; Jack Edwin McGregor, member of the advisory board of the St. Lawrence Seaway Development Corp.; Victor Henderson Ashe, member of the board of directors of the
Federal National Mortgage Association; Roy Leslie Austin, U.S. ambassador to Trinidad and Tobago; Robert Davis McCallum Jr., associate attorney general; Rex Cowdry, associate director of
the White House's National Economic Council; Edward McNally Sr., associate counsel to the president and general counsel to the Office of Homeland Security; David Batshaw Wiseman, an
attorney in the Justice Department's Civil Division; and James Emanuel Boasberg, an associate judge on the Superior Court of
the District of Columbia.

Taft and George H. W. Bush were both one-term presidents. George W's secret name in the order is reported to be "Temporary." Will he be the first member of the Order of Skull & Bones  :skull: to serve two terms, in spite of his secret name, or will he hand the reins of government to his rival Bonesman, John Kerry?

This is the first time that both major candidates are members of Skull & Bones.  :skull: There has been little discussion of the order in Democratic and Republican circles. The Washington Post assigned Bonesman Dana Milbank to cover the election, and he hasn't brought the question up. Even Ralph Nader has been quiet. Is this because Nader's sometimes lawyer and long-standing associate, Donald Etra, is Skull & Bones 1968, and a good friend of George W. Bush?

Author Antony Sutton in the 1980s called attention to the order's predilection for trying to politically influence both the left and the right. Is our current presidential election a
contest between the two best candidates for the job, or a cynical dialectic ploy for control of our republic and our collective future?

As a Bonesman is reported to have said about Bush vs. Kerry, "It's a win-win situation."  :skull:

Maybe it is for the order.

But what about the rest of us?

Kris Millegan (http://www.trineday.com.
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2004, 04:26:00 PM »
read the many books pertaining to the "bonesmen".

it's sort of a "new world order"  that thinks conflict is "good" if it is controled.  all of our u.s. schools are set up to teach only so much so the general public isn't smart enough to figure out what these "good ole boys" are up to.

and yes..both "w" and kerry belong to it!  it is the only frat / org. that doesn't have to file any tax reports, etc... go figure!

now all of you run along and make those tax donations to your favorite candidate of choice.
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2004, 01:26:00 AM »
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On 2004-09-30 08:33:00, Anonymous wrote:

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Here's another- Why aren't Corporations paying their fair share of taxes?



QUICK NEWS TIDBITS

According to the New York Times, the largest corporations in the U.S. have been paying fewer taxes than ever before, since new Bush Administration tax policies were enacted. The 275 wealthiest U.S. companies generated $1.1 trillion in revenue from 2001 to 2003, but only paid taxes on half of that. More...

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Bush is by no means a highly intellgent man, but I believe he has wise advisors. You see from past history that when we raise taxes on "the wealthy" & large corporations, they all too often close and move their jobs to other countries or as individuals, purchase property in other countries resulting in loss of thousands of jobs. When you look at the big picture, those tax cuts ARE necessary. Remember the golden rule, He(large corps)with the gold,  makes the rules. When taxes in Connecticut were raised like this, we lost too many jobs to other states. We can't do this to the entire country.



http://www.organicconsumers.org/corp/taxes092304.cfm"
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2004, 11:02:00 AM »
***Remember the golden rule, He(large corps)with the gold, makes the rules. When taxes in Connecticut were raised like this, we lost too many jobs to other states. We can't do this to the entire country.

Totally fucking ludicrous.
Corps move production jobs overseas to increase profits and avoid taxes. Much more profitable to pay 12 cents an hour to have your Nike shoes made than a living wage in the US, plus benefits.
This is about greed.

Sounds like bribery to me. 'Charge less tax or I'll move my company offshore'. While paying less tax might be a factor, I think the driving force is cheap labor and lax labor laws.

How American- How Patriotic.

The government should charge corporations who move production facilities offshore a very hefty tax to import their cheaply produced goods into the US. Enough to compensate for the lost taxes and wages. Some of the import fees could go into a fund to help pay for the increasing unemployment benefits that were a result of the facility moving.

There's more than one way to skin a cat.

And ultimately, I guess it will boomarang, if the trend continues. They won't be selling their cheaply produced products here because no one will have money to buy them. Now that would be poetic justice.
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2004, 07:31:00 PM »
Best was the body language Bush had.  Like a kid getting SPANKED by his parents, knowing he did something wrong.  VP"S next then on to spanking # 2.  Kerry looked like a president Bush like a scared kid just like on sept 11th.  No one could spin it in Bush's favor.  Its great Bush appeals to the common man, but now in this time we need a president again.  Kerry is the man for it and he proved it.
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2004, 09:54:00 PM »
I don't know if Kerry will be any better, but here's a poll review from Drudge, that puts him ahead significantly.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1nw.htm

NEWSWEEK POLL: BUSH LEAD GONE
Sat Oct 02 2004 16:42:32 ET
   
New York-Sixty-one [61] percent of Americans who watched the first presidential debate on September 30 say Sen. John Kerry won; 19 percent say President George W. Bush won and 16 percent say they tied, according to the latest Newsweek Poll which was conducted after the debate ended. Fifty-six percent say Kerry did better than they expected; 11 percent say so for Bush. Thirty-eight percent say Bush did worse than expected;  3 percent say so for Kerry, the poll shows.
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2004, 11:42:00 PM »
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On 2004-10-02 08:02:00, Anonymous wrote:

"***Remember the golden rule, He(large corps)with the gold, makes the rules. When taxes in Connecticut were raised like this, we lost too many jobs to other states. We can't do this to the entire country.



Totally fucking ludicrous.

Corps move production jobs overseas to increase profits and avoid taxes. Much more profitable to pay 12 cents an hour to have your Nike shoes made than a living wage in the US, plus benefits.

 THAT WAS MY POST,
I wasn't signed on. That would be a great idea to have a huge import tax for the companies moving jobs overseas, but I can't see that happening any time soon. Connecticut lost so many large companies = JOBS, when our corporation taxes increased. It does sound like bribery, but I just stating the facts. Due to what has happened here, I believe Bush did the right thing by lowering corporate tax. When their taxes go up, even if they stay put, their prices go up to the consumer.


 


How American- How Patriotic.

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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2004, 11:56:00 PM »
Syn, you are scareing me. The choice is difficult because I don't want either of them, but I do think GW is the lesser of the two evils. Kerry is making a lot of statements about what he will do, but they don't seem realistic to me. Is Mass. a Democtatic state in general? Do you know, because I have no idea?

How can they call that a debate? Not allowed to speak to one another, no difficult questions, no touching(what is up with that one). It was more like a spelling bee format. A couple of Dopes!
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« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2004, 12:48:00 PM »
Are you  better off  than you were four years ago?

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