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Any fond memories, lessons or other positive aspects of The
GregFL:
--- Quote ---On 2004-10-01 08:07:00, Scout wrote:
So, my point is that it's good to talk about, understand it, grieve a little for lost years, be grateful for the good parts, and vow to be an involved, attentive, loving, parent who would not put my child in a program like the seed or any other program.
Enough for now.
Scout "
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Right on point in my opinion...except I personally dont have any good parts to share. It all was so negative for me, the whole entire experience I can not think of one positive I took from it.
Except the old adage That which does not kill you makes you stronger. I really didnt need that knowledge at 14 years old.
Anonymous:
I really wanted to hear from Antigen -Greg
Anonymous:
Greg - Do you have any contact with any family(parents or siblings?)Were you at Broward ST Pete & Straight Inc?
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2004-10-01 12:18:00, rjfro22 wrote:
"Antigen,
To compare the Seed to the
hologaust is beyond my believe, do you not understanfd the horror the jews have suffered.
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Yes I do. Do you understand that the Third Reich came to power in 1933? That they didn't start off w/ work camps and mad scientists doing horrible experiments on inmates, but as a "grass roots" movement to improve German culture?
Point is, I'm not comparing The Seed to the Holocaust. I do, however, compare the war on (certain unpatentable) drugs to the third riech. Just substitute one scapegoat for another. If anything, The Seed, Straight and some other organizations are directly comperable to the Hitler Jugund.
Wally said he can't understand why anyone would want to yell at another former Seedling. I was trying to explain that.
Scoundrels are predictable, but you're a man of honor and that frightens me.
Robert Heinlein, Glory Road.
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Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2004-10-01 12:47:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Antigen,
Did your family live in Melrose park in the 70's?
I really liked your family. Although I did not know them well. I think If I'm remembering correctly you were a really cute little girl at the open meetings. Sorry you still feel the same . What I don't understand is your family probably hasn't been involved in over 30 yrs. Maybe I missed some posts. Why is this still so upsetting to you? "
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No, Lyons Park in Pompano Beach. You probably did know my family, as we were involved pretty constantly from around `70 till at least `78 or so.
It still bothers me because it destroyed my family. Not just a little tention here and there in the midst of an otherwise decent family relationship. I mean I haven't spoken w/ my mother since the last time she tried to force me to go into treatment, which was only around 12 years ago. She remains convinced that, because I smoked pot when I was 15 and didn't graduate the Program, that I must still be a druggieinneedoftreatment.
But that's just personal business. The reason why I try to get some public light on the subject is because of the overwhelming power these same drug warriors have in public policy.
Did you know, for example, that DARE is not a curriculum but a psychological program and that the president of the corporation is a very powerful former Seed parent? I don't know about you, but I don't want that crazy old bat anywhere near my kids' heads!
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.
-- Albert Einstein
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