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Anonymous:
Oh, but you are posting here...and apparently so is your dad, you know, the guy still using seed lingo 30 years later calling seed critics druggies.
So know we know, you brother "cured" himself and you needed the seed.
You sure about that? You less of a person than your brother?
GregFL:
--- Quote ---On 2004-11-08 15:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
By the way, I was in the Seed at the same time, same place as GREGFL, and I don't remember half of what he reports.....
I think a bunch of the complaints here are revisionist history. I remember reading the St. Petersburg Times stories when we were at the Seed, and most of the stories were based on reports from Seed runaways, screw-ups or their parents, who had an axe to grind. Also, a lot of the reporting was speculation because Art tried so hard to keep the curious public out to protect our anonymity and our growth in the program. He practiced "the rules" too.
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As they would say in the seed "you are full of shit" ... at least on this topic.
Art allowed the "curious public" to come to open meeting and observe who was there and listen to their coerced confessions. In St Pete sometimes there would be several thousand observers and parents.
Art put HUNDREDS of kids in front of TV cameras and ran their pictures and testimonies over and over on tv stations thruout florida and Ohio. The infomercial is called "the Seed of hope".
Art only inacted the "no talking to the press" rule after making a complete ass out of himself over and over. Even then the press was at every open meeting at the Seed and Art gave countless statements to the press. Was the press all druggies too? I can tell you this, it took the St Pete Independent almost a year before they caught on and started critically reporting seed events. At first the were solidly in the Seed camp until Senate reports came out, people testified that they had been beaten and abused.
Further,early he let the press interview and post newcomers names and MORAL INVENTORIES in local nespapers where he was recruiting new members.
Countless abuse from the period was reported in the press, but here 30 years later you discredit all of those accounts because they were people who had left the seed.
Tell me, if it was so wonderfull, why did they leave? Oh yeah, they were druggies and splits..instant discredit of everything they say.
I am a seed graduate. I have the same "status" as you do post seed. I am not on drugs. Tell me, why is my memory and the memory of hundreds of people that went thru the seed so easily discredited by you?
Is it because we criticise your beloved cult?
[ This Message was edited by: GregFL on 2004-11-08 19:52 ]
Anonymous:
Adios! Enjoy your website. No more replies or posts from me, so you can have meaningful discussion with those who support your cause.
Anonymous:
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Anonymous:
Speechless, eh? I think you need to bone up on some facts. The "cause" as you put it is open discussion and you just got nothing but a open meeting style testimonial to offer. Sorry your feelings are hurt or your hard wired story is challenged. Whatever it is that bugs you about this open discussion, if you are truly signing off... go in peace.
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