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Any fond memories, lessons or other positive aspects of The
Anonymous:
Right on Cleveland. And this is the magical allure of almost all cults...love bombing. They bring you in and give you instant paths to love. ALl you have to do is comply. Soon you are walking talking and acting like everybody else.
Anonymous:
I'll reply that I'm the daughter of the one who posted this, and since you've asked how the Seed daughter turned out, I'm the one on page 6 who has the Master's degrees, etc. Don't mess with my dad. He has put up with a lot of crap and doesn't need any here. Remember, you asked for fond memories and positive aspects. You shouldn't shoot the people who report them.
My dad loves my brother and me and is proud of our accomplishments. I will always be thankful for him putting me in the Seed. After he dropped me off, my mom reported that he returned home and cried all night wondering if he had done the right thing. I was so screwed up that he was at his wit's end. My brother had to go through torture at another style of drug rehab. You guys that complain about our "cult" ain't seen nothing compared to his stories. By the way, I was in the Seed at the same time, same place as GREGFL, and I don't remember half of what he reports, and it's not because I'm a mindless "Nazi" who is hiding or stuffing her "cult-induced" memories.
I think a bunch of the complaints here are revisionist history. I remember reading the St. Petersburg Times stories when we were at the Seed, and most of the stories were based on reports from Seed runaways, screw-ups or their parents, who had an axe to grind. Also, a lot of the reporting was speculation because Art tried so hard to keep the curious public out to protect our anonymity and our growth in the program. He practiced "the rules" too.
By the way, as some would hint here to jab at my dad, the street didn't cure my brother. It took a lot of hard work and determination on his part, a lot of sacrifice, set-backs and heartache. He still regrets that he lost his chance to get more education, because he had to fight just to keep food on the table. Most of us who graduated from the Seed had a chance to recover our educations if we chose to do so, or if our parents had that goal for us in the first place.
I'm sorry that the "testimonials" of Seed success are so "blah" to some of you, but I am not living in a post-Seed rebellious mindstate, posting endless diatribes on a message board. Instead, I'm using my energy to volunteer in my community, raise a family and make a lasting difference on society.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2004-11-08 15:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
" Don't mess with my dad. He has put up with a lot of crap and doesn't need any here.
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Then tell him to go away if he doesn't like what's posted here.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2004-11-08 15:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
" Instead, I'm using my energy to volunteer in my community, raise a family and make a lasting difference on society.
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That's funny...ME TOO. :lol: I'm doing my part by shutting down Seed/Straight spinoffs and dedicating my life to exposing the Barker/Sembler/Newton/Stepcraft dirty little secrets.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2004-11-08 15:54:00, Anonymous wrote
By the way, as some would hint here to jab at my dad, the street didn't cure my brother. It took a lot of hard work and determination on his part, a lot of sacrifice, set-backs and heartache.
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Then please explain this statement:
"He said that government blot on the taxpayers did not cure any better that just dumping druggies on the street and hoping that they would cure themselves. That's what happened to my son who does not use drugs, alcohol, caffeine, and is a strict vegetarian. "
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