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« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2004, 04:18:00 PM »
:eek: suprise suprise, empty... hmmm, now where else could they be? maybe they didnt leave in the first place... hmmm, anyone in sd that can go to that hotel and check, might be a fine idea. :???:
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« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2004, 05:24:00 PM »
AP news this AM says the kids were bussed to San Diego in 4 busses.  Taken to Town and Country, then moved to American Legion Hall.  As of this morning, only 20 kids had not been picked up.  Don't know how many were "picked up" by escorts and shipped off to other WWASPS.
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« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2004, 03:47:00 PM »
yeah right so whats the latest?  any kids left at the american legion?  why would they go there?
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« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2004, 06:18:00 PM »
So what happened to the four abused children?  Being that they are minors, we may never know?

more program cover up?
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« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2004, 06:48:00 PM »
Maybe you all should write to US Senators Kennedy, Clinton, and Kerry, I am sure this is an issue they would want to tackle.  Come on they have programs all over the Country, and also write letters to the editors with your horrific experiences (keep them short and too the point) expose these scums for what they really are.  Sitting back knowing what you know makes you all part of the problem not the solution. ::boohoo::

Get off your rumps and so something.
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« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2004, 09:52:00 PM »
It's hard to immagine that parents would be stupid enough to place their child in another WWASP program. How many need to be closed before people get the message that their therapy is abusive and not recommended by any reputable professional psychological or medical organization. Like I've said many times before these abusive tactics were learned by Lichfield and Farnsworth while they worked at Provo Canyon School.  PCS uses the same tactics.  What continues to amaze me is how the government in Utah covers for these dens of horror and abuse.  Courts continue to place children in these facilities at our expence (taxpayers).  I agree that those who have been abused need to keep coals hot under those who have the power to do something about these awful teen program.  Report the abuse to the authorities - police, child protective services, attorney general and the licensing boards.  Then go to the press and let them know what happened. Often they will protect your identity by using a ficticious name.  Writing letters to the editor also help.  






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« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2004, 10:01:00 PM »
Desisto school was here in MA, were in the process of meeting licensing requirements finally, but had some huge problems of neglect, kids cutting swallowing razor blades, staff not applying first aid for a long time, then when finally taken to ER neglected to tell ER that the girl had swallowed the razor blades.  Other abuses, and things that were unacceptable.  I know the state Office for Licensing Services spent lots of time there, but the program didn't get it.  It's new Director since Michael DeSisto had to resign as Director because the state required it, and before he was found to be sick and passed away, has no real education or mental health background, he was an artist.  Strange place, anyway they had 15 parents willing to send their kids to their location in Mexico and with passports no visa's off they went.  Wonder what will happen...?
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« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2004, 11:55:00 AM »
KABUL (Reuters)  Three Americans have been sentenced to up to 10 years in jail after being found guilty by an Afghan court on charges including torture, running a private prison and illegal detention.

Jonathan ?Jack? Idema, a former U.S. Green Beret, was arrested in July along with another ex-serviceman, Brent Bennett, and documentary film-maker Edward Caraballo.

They had denied the charges and insisted they were in Afghanistan with U.S. and Afghan government sanction to help track down al-Qaida and Taliban extremists.

?I apologize that we tried to save these people,? Idema told reporters immediately after the verdict. ?We should have let the Taliban murder every ... one of them,? he said bitterly.

Idema and Bennett were each sentenced to 10 years in jail and Caraballo to eight. Four Afghan co-defendants received sentences ranging from one to five years.

John Edwards Tiffany, a lawyer for Idema, said they planned to appeal.

?Justice was not served today,? Tiffany said. ?I blame the U.S. government, the Bush administration and the Afghan legal system, which is not anywhere near where it needs to be.?

?No one tortured anyone,? Idema added.

The Idema case came to light in the wake of scandals over U.S. treatment of detainees in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Afghan authorities said Idema had entered the country illegally, was running a private prison, had tortured and illegally detained Afghans and had harmed relations between Afghanistan and the U.S.

They said the judicial process they had experienced so far scarcely met Afghan standards, let alone international ones.

?This is so far removed from what I am used to,? Tiffany told reporters during a recess.

(Does any of this sound like anyone you know?)
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« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2004, 11:52:00 PM »
More on that:

Torture for Profit
Private contractors face legal action for crimes in Abu Ghraib

by David Phinney, Special to CorpWatch
September 15th, 2004
 
 
 
Cartoonist: Khalil Bendib
Employees of two high-profile defense contractors are accused of involvement in close to one third of the torture and abuse incidents cited in a recent Army investigation of Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. In late August, following release of the report, Defense department officials turned over the names of six CACI International Inc. and Titan Corporation employees to the U.S. Justice department for possible prosecution.
 
Full Article: http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11524

These corporations and the people involved in them have been tight w/ the Büsh Dynasty going back at least a generation, sometimes more. Jeb and his wife, Cammila, are (or have recently been) on the BOA of Drug Free America Foundation (fka Straight, Inc.) GHW and Barbara have both endoursed Straight, Inc. by name. Here's a message from our former president http://thestraights.com/video/bush.ram

Much of the method used in Straight has been reportedly used in Abu Graib (and, btw, the School of the Americas for decades now)

I don't think this is coincidental. I think that if you look at this throught the prism of that vital double question that answers everything (who's fuckin' who and where'd the money go? Call it Crazy Mac's razor) all this madness and insanity sort of make sense, doesn't it?

The Religious Reich is fuckin' anybody who they find inconvenient and the money's all rolling in to Carlyle, Halliburton subsidieries w/ post office boxes on a Carribian sand bar.

The neandracons, or missing chromosone Replicans, have truely taken over the assylum.

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« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2004, 12:16:00 AM »
everyone is giving Kudos to Isac, including Isac themselves..(way to go ISAC...by Shelly director of ISAC).

What did Isac do, if anything to help facilitate the closing.

Tell me please, I am real interested here in learning what ISAC has done except read the newspaper.
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« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2004, 04:35:00 AM »
everyone is giving Kudos to Isac, including Isac themselves..(way to go ISAC...by Shelly director of ISAC).

   Where did you read this comment? ISAC doesn't post here very often so if you really want to know the deal perhaps call or write them.
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« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2004, 11:56:00 AM »
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On 2004-09-15 21:16:00, Anonymous wrote:

"everyone is giving Kudos to Isac, including Isac themselves..(way to go ISAC...by Shelly director of ISAC).



What did Isac do, if anything to help facilitate the closing.



Tell me please, I am real interested here in learning what ISAC has done except read the newspaper.



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From one "bag over your head" to another, I was told ISAC NEVER had anything to do with the mexico shit, it wasn't them, and they never claimed it was them, all they did was give the crimes report to a parent who took her kid out of Casa, and she did the rest, not them.
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« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2004, 12:33:00 AM »
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On 2004-09-10 23:53:00, Anonymous wrote:

"It appears to me that someone has been doing there homework!!!  Way to go ISAC's!!!



Regards,



Lee



ISAC Corporation has learned that Mexican authorities have ordered the closure of Casa by the Sea, a behavior modification program affiliated with the World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools(WWASPS).



The facility, located in Ensenada, has been ordered to remove all students within 48 hours.



Representatives of WWASPS/Teen Help have confirmed the impending closure.



ISAC will release additional information as it becomes available.

 



ISAC Corporation

Shelby Earnshaw, Director

http://www.isaccorp.org  

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right there, second quote in the thread.  Why is ISAC patting themselves on the back here. What did they have to do with the closing?

Can't wait to here it.
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« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2004, 01:19:00 AM »
Dude, I don't think Shelby's taking credit for causing the closings here. She just says "ISAC has learned...". She's just reporting. And Lee, as much as I loath him personally, is only giving credit to her for knowing what's up.

I don't really see a problem here.

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« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2004, 12:48:00 PM »
This is still great news. I saw it in the Drug War Chronicle http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/354/mexico.shtml

Of course better news would have been that the Mexican police had raided the place, taken the kids to the American Consulate for repatriation and arrested the staff members. Then a few months later WWASP cries foul that dozens of its staff members have not been accounted for and there are mysteriously fresh looking holes a few miles from the CASA facility.  

The kids will never be free until the sands run red with WWASPie blood![ This Message was edited by: FaceKhan on 2004-09-17 09:49 ]
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