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Why I Post Anomalously
Anonymous:
Why I Post Anomalously
There have been some good comments regarding anonymous posts. Are the comments "real", or is someone stooging for one organization or another? Certainly, ownership of one's remarks -- and stating your name is certainly taking ownership -- gives one's comments credibility.
A couple of weeks ago I posted comments on the Forum covering Thayer Learning Center (09/04/01). In summary, I reported that Thayer seemed to be working very well for our son. I did post my e-mail address in case anyone wanted to contact me. Among the responses I received (besides a wholesale attempt to send me viruses) was the following from one Devlin Graves: [Spelling Unchanged]
"i just sent a copy of your post on the Fomits Board and sent it to the
Divsion of Family Servies in Missouri. What you admitted that goes on in Thayer is child abuse and you by keeping your kid there you are now a party to it. Congragulations the DFS will find your identity and hunt you down and i hope they lock you up, and take your kid away! You should be spaded and neudered. Your no parent.."
Now, I am not acquainted with Mr. Graves; and must admit that I would not care to be. My question is, how many of you, should your post not agree with Mr. Graves' views, would want him to have your name? I think that most of you would agree that Mr. Graves appears to be a few cards short of a full deck. While the Forums certainly stimulate certain individual's passions, there is not always a corresponding stimulation of the intellect; or for that matter, English grammar and spelling.
For my part, I will continue to posta anomalously.
Oh and yes, Mr. Graves, the correct words are, "Spayed and Neutered".
Nemo
Deborah:
Well Nemo if you can let go of your anal retentive need for others to spell correctly, you might see Mr. Graves' point, which you didn't respond to - except to indirectly warn other parents who condon the abuse of their teens to reamin anonymous so as not to be reported.
The techniques you described are considered abusive to the general population, and the fact that a teen is causing their parent some grief does not justify incarceration and abuse. We are no longer in the stone ages.
It's very likely that before your child caused you grief that you may have caused him a great deal of grief. Shall we lock you away and torture you until you become a better parent and get over your anal retentiveness?
Devlin's spelling obviously wasn't bad emough to interfere with your understanding. If it had been, you could've asked for clarification. No, you are angry that he took action against you for condoning the abuse of your child. Perhaps that information will make it into the right hands so that you, and they, might be educated and 'disciplined'.
So, where Nemo, would you draw the line between discipline and abuse? It's obviously way right of the more intellegent in this society- some who don't spell well.
The ability to spell and use proper grammar does not constitute intellegence or courage, as is proven on a daily basis.
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Anonymous:
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On 2004-09-05 15:39:00, Deborah wrote:
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BuzzKill:
OK guys - you got your butts ripped for supporting Teen programs. The reaction was extreme; even maybe a little crazy. Before you write the whole thing off as just a bunch of unbalanced blather, you really ought to look at where this point of view is coming from. There are good reasons for extreme reactions. Take the time to learn about how bad things can be; and then come back and talk.
http://www.isaccorp.com/thayer.html
http://www.nospank.net/azboys.htm
http://www.nospank.net/bacon2.htm
http://www.nospank.net/paisley.htm
http://www.teenadvocatesusa.homestead.c ... elleSutton
Anonymous:
BuzzKill,
Yes, I've seen/heard of those incidents before (from your links). Sad and unfortunate for sure. However, to say these programs are "abusive", and/or torturous, are not valid claims in an OVERALL sense. Incidents MAY occur, just like they do by abusive parents, or shotty nurses in normal hospitals, or careless workers at daycare facilities. Shall we protest and try to shut down ALL medical hospitals and day care facilities too??
Tell me... how many teens have gone through or been in a "treatment program", and it resulted in death compared to the numbers overall??
If you had a poor experience in a program, and don't like them, then DON'T go into another OR place your child there. Ripping another parent up and down for looking for help with their child, os NOT helpful or necessary.
Give them a BETTER option, if you have one. (And don't go into the "if they were a better parent to begin with, their kid would have never gotten into trouble" speech--- can't go back.)
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