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Helping Kids
WhatIsAtTheEdge:
"And to answer your question, I think many people's greatest fear is a wasted life."
This, and this alone is the main problem of our generation. From the beginning; in 1st grade, 2nd grade, third grade we wave been taught, systematically to believe "I am special and unique!" So, when we grow up we start to understand that in fact, we are ordinary. The extremes of this teaching are that we will eventually seek out uniqueness and usually be let down. This kind of thing will end up killing people. Bottom line; there are unique people and there are the ordinary, and by all odds you are probly not one of the great. This in turn leads to failure. Because once we find out we are ordinary, we will have great shame and depression.[ This Message was edited by: WhatIsAtTheEdge on 2004-08-26 22:04 ]
shanlea:
Never thought of it like that. But definitely accurate.
Antigen:
I'm old enough to remember when those everbody wins award cerimonies in school were still weird. I still don't like it and work to subvert the meme in my own kids.
I'm also old enough to remember when a kid had to actually commit a real crime to draw serious attention from the criminal justice system. I wonder if a lot of the kids who wind up shipped off for repair due to 'police involvement' wouldn't have just gotten a detention or less 30 years ago.
Come the millennium,
month 12,
in the home of greatest power,
the village idiot will come forth to
be acclaimed the leader.
--Nostradamus
--- End quote ---
CEDU IS A CULT:
I completely disagree. I think we are taught from the beginning to be satisfied, to believe the lie that we aren't all unique. And to believe the lie that we arent all the same.
Frankly, you're right. I'm no where near one of the Great. I consider those greats men like Socrates, Gandhi, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, etc....
I do wish I could be more like them though. However, this HARDLY leads to failure and depression. QUITE the contrary, it gives me great joys and daily success in striving to be the best I can.
shanlea:
I've been sitting in some classes observing teachers teach and I have to say it is a real killjoy. I love attending college, but if I were in middle school again I would be asleep. Everything is so conformed and standardized. I actually felt great sympathy for students who have to hear recitation for eight hours a day at a time in their lives that they are practicaly jumping out of their skin anyway.
But back to what I was posting: How can we help kids who need it? Let's say someone who suffers bad self esteem and is profoundly unhappy and/or self destructive. (I'm not talking experimenting w/drugs or other teenage rebellion/activities.) Bryan? Ginger? Take a a totally hands off approach?
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