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Aspen Education Group: Any former students?
Anonymous:
I just got out of Aspen Achievement academy on September 29, 2004. It sucked, it didnt help with anything except giving me more ideas on how to get what i want from whoever i wanted it from. The moment I came home i was back into my old habits. That program was a waste of 7 weeks of my life. Not to mention I just dissapeared from everyone at home when the escrots brought me there. My back still hurts from carrying that pack
Anonymous:
please let me know more info on aspen academy in loa, utah. i am considering sending my son there in the next month or so. he is currently at suws wilderness program & they're recomending Aspen Ranch.
mudbone357:
Hi,
I was at Aspen Acheivement Academy from January to March 1994. I don't know anything about Aspen Ranch, but if there's any connection between that and the Aspen program that I attended in Loa, I would recommend not sending your child there.
The conditions were subhuman, there physical difficulty of the program caused multiple injuries to children in my group, and they even caused the death of a child later in 1994. Your child will be deprived not only of physical neccesities, but also of their dignity and self respect, as they are broken down physically and mentally until they can be reshaped by the program, which in my case did nothing beyond giving me years of nightmares.
I know that there really are children out there who need outside help, but sending your child to a program like this is outside of what can be considered good parenting. Maybe look into some kind of problem-specific program, ie. a drug rehab program, or short-term inpatient psychiatric treatment, coupled with out-patient therapy. But, please don't send your child to these people. They have no accountability and they abuse children. Thanks, and if you need to talk to someone about it, feel free to IM me. :smile:
Anonymous:
My daughter's best friend was kidnapped at the end of August 2004 and taken to Aspen. We just got a letter from him. He hates the place. His father says he will be there for THREE MORE YEARS. His name is Jesse Zipperman. Did you meet him? How can we communicate with him, GET HIM OUT OF THERE. His father is a psycologist with a very smooth-talking story.
CPS says the father has a right to send his son there. Please e-mail me at jpstillwater@yahoo.com if you have any sugestions. I am asking everyone I know to send Jesse letters and post cards. AAA, Loa, Utah 84747. If Jesse gets a thousand letters, maybe they will be nicer to him?
mudbone357:
Hi,
I'm sorry, but I was there over 10 years ago so I haven't met the Jesse that you talk about. And, as far as what you can do to help get him out, I really don't know any legal recourse that you could take to try and get him removed from the program. The reason that so many of these programs are located in Utah, is it's lack of child protection legislation, and the difficulty to work within it's system as an outsider. For example, in opposition to the regulations afforded for doctor-patient confidentiality in all of the other 49 states in the union, Utah has no such protection for children; therefore, they can take what should be protected speech between the kids and the therapists, and pass that information on to their parents in an attempt to get them to commit their children for longer periods, by twisting their words and secrets against them.
I am really sorry that I don't have any good news for you; I had friends who wanted to spring me from the two programs that I spent 3 years in, but with no success. I wouldn't recommend it either, as doing so would constitute kidnapping. It's a terrible bind. If you have any other questions, or just would like to discuss their situation, please feel free to IM or email me. Good luck, and take care.
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