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Aspen Education Group: Any former students?
mudbone357:
Spirithelps -
You know, it's been a really long time since I was there, and just as long a time of trying to forget about what I went through when I was there. I used to get that same argument from people that you get, about it being a necessary evil, and so since nobody who hasn't been through it themself could possibly understand what it was really like, I just stopped talking about it all together.
Having said that though, I know that what they did there was child abuse, and that it was wrong; i just still feel the way we all got to feeling: nobody's going to help us because we have no rights, and I stopped trying to do anything about it. Did it stop my drug problem? As much as locking me in a closet would have, I guess. What really stopped my drug use was the death of my best friend while I was at RMA. So, do I feel like it was a necessary evil? Yes and no. And I hate that I have to answer it like that, but I'm still conditioned now, even ten years later.
As Far as specific crimes, the therapist they sent me to before I went into the field violated my patient doctor privilage by telling my parents everything that we spoke about; I'm pretty sure that that was illegal, although Aspen told me that privilage didn't exist for minors in Utah. The other more awful crimes I can tell you about if you'd like to hear. I feel like I'm rambling.
spirithelps:
Well, please do ramble on . . . it's what I need to hear. Actually, there are a couple of us in here who want to help. I don't know how much I can do, but I can certainly raise awareness. I'm pretty good about raising a big fat stink, and I don't shut up and go home til the job's done.
Utah is a terrible state for children rights, or so I understand. I'm beginning to think that kids all over the nation have no rights, seems the parents and the programs can do whatever they want.
From what I've witnessed, Aspen cleans up after their messes so well that no one can put a finger on them. My reports were kept secret from all other staff and all problems were swept under the rug.
But no one is that perfect. We've got tons on them already. All we have to do is get it together and get it into the right hands.
Anonymous:
i went to aspen achievement academy in loa utah in 2002 if you want any information about it i will give it to you i was there for like 2 months........
spirithelps:
What was your experience like? Good, bad?? I heard that the Loa facility had a bunch of drunks running it and they fired everyone and started over. Please do let me know what you think of it. You were there. You can email me at:
toni@spirithelps.com
Sometimes email does not work very well, you know all of the interference these days!
Toni
Anonymous:
i went to academy at swift river. i probably wouldnt sue however i do carry deep emotional scars that i didnt have before i went. that place created such a manipulative enviornment for children to feel a false sense of belonging and upon leaving really fucked me up
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