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Tommy Franks: Martial Law Will Replace Constitution After Next Terror Attack


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Friday, Nov. 21, 2003

Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government.

Franks, who successfully led the U.S. military operation to liberate Iraq, expressed his worries in an extensive interview he gave to the men's lifestyle magazine Cigar Aficionado.

In the magazine's December edition, the former commander of the military's Central Command warned that if terrorists succeeded in using a weapon of mass destruction (WMD) against the U.S. or one of our allies, it would likely have catastrophic consequences for our cherished republican form of government.

Discussing the hypothetical dangers posed to the U.S. in the wake of Sept. 11, Franks said that ?the worst thing that could happen? is if terrorists acquire and then use a biological, chemical or nuclear weapon that inflicts heavy casualties.

If that happens, Franks said, ?... the Western world, the free world, loses what it cherishes most, and that is freedom and liberty we've seen for a couple of hundred years in this grand experiment that we call democracy.?

Franks then offered ?in a practical sense? what he thinks would happen in the aftermath of such an attack.

?It means the potential of a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event somewhere in the Western world ? it may be in the United States of America ? that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event. Which in fact, then begins to unravel the fabric of our Constitution. Two steps, very, very important.?

Franks didn't speculate about how soon such an event might take place.

Already, critics of the U.S. Patriot Act, rushed through Congress in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, have argued that the law aims to curtail civil liberties and sets a dangerous precedent.

But Franks' scenario goes much further. He is the first high-ranking official to openly speculate that the Constitution could be scrapped in favor of a military form of government.

The usually camera-shy Franks retired from U.S. Central Command, known in Pentagon lingo as CentCom, in August 2003, after serving nearly four decades in the Army.

Franks earned three Purple Hearts for combat wounds and three Bronze Stars for valor. Known as a ?soldier's general,? Franks made his mark as a top commander during the U.S.'s successful Operation Desert Storm, which liberated Kuwait in 1991. He was in charge of CentCom when Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda attacked the United States on Sept. 11.

Franks said that within hours of the attacks, he was given orders to prepare to root out the Taliban in Afghanistan and to capture bin Laden.

Franks offered his assessment on a number of topics to Cigar Aficionado, including:

President Bush: ?As I look at President Bush, I think he will ultimately be judged as a man of extremely high character. A very thoughtful man, not having been appraised properly by those who would say he's not very smart. I find the contrary. I think he's very, very bright. And I suspect that he'll be judged as a man who led this country through a crease in history effectively. Probably we'll think of him in years to come as an American hero.?

On the motivation for the Iraq war: Contrary to claims that top Pentagon brass opposed the invasion of Iraq, Franks said he wholeheartedly agreed with the president's decision to invade Iraq and oust Saddam Hussein.

?I, for one, begin with intent. ... There is no question that Saddam Hussein had intent to do harm to the Western alliance and to the United States of America. That intent is confirmed in a great many of his speeches, his commentary, the words that have come out of the Iraqi regime over the last dozen or so years. So we have intent.

?If we know for sure ... that a regime has intent to do harm to this country, and if we have something beyond a reasonable doubt that this particular regime may have the wherewithal with which to execute the intent, what are our actions and orders as leaders in this country??

The Pentagon's deck of cards: Asked how the Pentagon decided to put its most-wanted Iraqis on a set of playing cards, Franks explained its genesis. He recalled that when his staff identified the most notorious Iraqis the U.S. wanted to capture, ?it just turned out that the number happened to be about the same as a deck of cards. And so somebody said, ?Aha, this will be the ace of spades.'?

Capturing Saddam: Franks said he was not surprised that Saddam has not been captured or killed. But he says he will eventually be found, perhaps sooner than Osama bin laden.

?The capture or killing of Saddam Hussein will be a near term thing. And I won't say that'll be within 19 or 43 days. ... I believe it is inevitable.?

Franks ended his interview with a less-than-optimistic note. ?It's not in the history of civilization for peace ever to reign. Never has in the history of man. ... I doubt that we'll ever have a time when the world will actually be at peace.?
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2004, 05:08:00 AM »
Americans are strong and America is such a strong country that EVEN AN ASSHOLE LIKE BUSH (or Fager or Bradbury)can not destroy it.I pitty the fool that tries to lay down martial law on American citizens!COME AND GET ME!!!!!(I dare you)
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On 2004-08-08 02:08:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Americans are strong and America is such a strong country that EVEN AN ASSHOLE LIKE BUSH (or Fager or Bradbury)can not destroy it.I pitty the fool that tries to lay down martial law on American citizens!COME AND GET ME!!!!!(I dare you)"


Yeah we will see when we have SWAT teams of special forces people breaking our doors down at 3 am with assault rifles...

Scary...
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Welcome to the New World Order!
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"Welcome to the New World Order!"


*moves out to woods and starts compound ::bandit::

We are gonna grow dope and food and wear sombreros and fucking...make moonshine and shoot fuckers that trespass  :skull:
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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2004, 11:24:00 AM »
(The Elkhorn Manifesto)

SHADOW OF THE SWASTIKA:
The Real Reason the Government Won't Debate
Medical Cannabis and Industrial Hemp Re-legalization
An Open Letter to All Americans
By R. William Davis

Documented Evidence of a Secret Business and Political Alliance
Between the U.S. "Establishment" and the Nazis -
Before, During and After World War II - up to the Present.


http://www.sumeria.net/politics/shadv3.html

If I am of the opinion that it is inexpedient to assign to the government the task of operating railroads, hotels, or mines, I am not an "enemy of the state" any more than I can be called an enemy of sulfuric acid because I am of the opinion that, useful though it may be for many purposes, it is not suitable either for drinking, or for washing one's hands.
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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2004, 02:21:00 PM »
This part is where it really gets mind bending.

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GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH

Like Richard Nixon, George Bush was a strong anti-marijuana/hemp president, escalating the so-called "war on drugs" begun by Nixon. And, like Nixon, George Bush was deeply involved with supporting the Nazis in the Republican's closet. In fact, support for the Nazis was a Bush family tradition which goes back more than six decades and, once again, to Allen Dulles.

Loftus and Aarons write: "The real story of George Bush starts well before he launched his own career. It goes back to the 1920s, when the Dulles brothers and the other pirates of Wall Street were making their deals with the Nazis. . . ."



To anyone who reads that far, I ask you, how in the world can a couple of board members of a Hollocaust museum have worked so tirelessly for so many years to put another Büsh in office?

But this is far from demonstrating that the authorities must interpose to suppress these vices by commercial prohibitions, nor is it by any means evident that such intervention on the part of the government is really capable of suppressing them or that, even if this end could be attained, it might not therewith open up a Pandora's box of other dangers, no less mischievous than alcoholism and morphinism.
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2004, 03:44:00 AM »
In the 20's in the USA the govt began rounding up inbred hillbillies and STERILIZED THEM so that they could not reproduce themselves.After a while the govt decided this was a bad idea,but HITLER caught on to it and started exterminating the retarded.The rest is Bush/Hitler history.
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Pubdate: Fri, 30 Jul 2004
Source: Chicago Reader (IL)
Contact: http://www.chicagoreader.com


THE COLONEL'S WEED

Tribune Boss Robert McCormick Had A Farm, And On
That Farm He Grew Some Hemp.

As crops throughout the midwest withered during
the drought of 1936, the Chicago Tribune reported
on one plant untroubled by the lack of water.
"When we stopped to look at the test plot where
the hemp is growing, we wanted to doff our straw
hat and give this plant a little applause," wrote
reporter Robert Becker.  "It has grown remarkably
in spite of intense heat and drouth [sic].  In
fact, one of the boys was saying that during the
week of the most severe heat the hemp kept
pushing its head to the blazing sun."

Becker's report showed up in a regular Tribune
feature called "Day by Day Story of the
Experimental Farms." This space kept readers
up-to-date on two farms in the western suburbs
that had been started ( and publicized ) by the
Tribune in hopes of bringing innovation to the
desperate farming industry.

Hemp, traditionally used to make products like
rope, paper, and birdseed, was an obvious choice
for the experimental farms.  Though it had been
cultivated in the U.S.  since colonial times by
the likes of George Washington and Thomas
Jefferson, Americans weren't growing much hemp in
the 1930s.  But new technological advances, as
well as its natural resistance to drought, made
hemp potentially attractive to struggling
farmers.

Less than a year after Tribune employees reported
on the impressive properties of hemp, the drug
czar of that day published an influential article
in American Magazine.  The story by Harry
Anslinger, head of the Federal Bureau of
Narcotics, began: "The sprawled body of a young
girl lay crushed on the sidewalk the other day
after a plunge from the fifth story of a Chicago
apartment house.  Everyone called it suicide, but
actually it was murder.  The killer was a
narcotic known to America as marihuana."

It wasn't long before the Chicago Tribune's hemp
crop was the focus of a federal drug
investigation.

*

Nearly 70 years later, the old argument
continues: Are hemp and marijuana synonymous or
only distantly related?

Donald Briskin, a professor in the Department of
Natural Resources and Environmental Sciences at
the University of Illinois in Urbana, says hemp
and marijuana differ substantially, thanks to the
way they've been bred over the centuries.  Hemp
has been selected for length and minimal
branching, to maximize the recovery of the fiber
along its main stem.  Marijuana has been selected
for elevated THC, the molecule in marijuana
flowers most responsible for getting smokers
high.

"Some plant scientists consider hemp and
marijuana to even be different species," says
Briskin.  "For instance, another classification
is to consider hemp as Cannabis sativa and
marijuana as Cannabis indica.  There isn't
complete agreement on the classification of these
plants."

THC has been virtually bred out of industrial
hemp.  In Canada, for example, the legal
difference between hemp and marijuana is a THC
content that is either below or above 0.3 percent
of the plant, measured by dry weight.  But the
THC content of common marijuana ranges from 3 to
7 percent.  The flowers of industrial hemp may
bear some physical resemblance to marijuana, but
ingesting even massive amounts won't get a normal
human high.

Though 33 states had outlawed marijuana by 1937,
its use as an intoxicant was relatively uncommon
in the U.S.  Marijuana became illegal in Illinois
in 1931 after local media, including the Tribune,
campaigned against the drug.  The logic of
prohibition was explained in "New Giggle Drug
Puts Discord in City Orchestras," a 1928 Tribune
article about marijuana's growing popularity
among local musicians.  The story explained that
marijuana "is an old drug but was generally
introduced into the country only a few years ago
by the Mexicans.  It is like cocaine.  In the
long run, it bends and cripples its victims.  A
sort of creeping paralysis results from long
use."

State laws against marijuana didn't impact hemp.
It had been grown in the United States since
before the revolution, but the labor-intensive
processing of the plant made it less attractive
to American farmers, and by the time the Tribune
started experimenting with it most hemp products
in the U.S.  were imported.  Technological
innovations that reduced the costs of processing
hemp might have been what caught the eye of
Colonel Robert McCormick, the Tribune's publisher
and editor.

McCormick was an agricultural enthusiast.  His
great-uncle Cyrus revolutionized farming by
inventing the mechanical reaper, and McCormick
farmed Cantigny, his estate in Wheaton.  In the
mid-1930s, when he wasn't busy bashing FDR and
the New Deal in the pages of the Tribune,
McCormick operated the "experimental farms" on
his estate.  Frank Ridgway, the Tribune's
agricultural editor and usual author of "Day by
Day Story of the Experimental Farms," also served
as supervisor for the farms.  Ridgway described
them as "practical laboratories for trying out
new discoveries, theories and practices."
According to one biographer, McCormick personally
chose the crops.  Along with exotic strains of
soybeans and alfalfa, he grew hemp.

A small test crop of hemp was planted in 1934,
and in '36 a three-acre hemp plot was sown.  By
harvest time, the plants had grown to 13 feet.
Reaping proved difficult.  The towering stalks
overwhelmed the machines, and part of the crop
had to be cut by hand.  The farmers learned as
they went along.  "Much progress has been made in
the manufacturing of fibers, paper and other
products on a small laboratory scale," Ridgway
wrote after the 1936 harvest.  "The next step is
to manufacture the hemp products on a commercial
scale.  When that is accomplished, farmers should
find a profitable outlet for hemp plants."

To accompany Ridgway's column, the Tribune
published a photograph of farmworkers attempting
to harvest the massive plants.  At least one
person was troubled by what he saw.

*

A few days after the photograph appeared, the
Chicago office of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics
received a letter from Washington.  Anslinger
wanted a "full report" on the Tribune's hemp.

Elizabeth Bass, the bureau's supervisor in
Chicago, made some phone calls and then visited
Cantigny.  Farm operators answered questions and
sent Bass on her way with a pound of hemp to take
back to the office.  Bass told Anslinger the
plants were strictly for industrial use.

She wrote that Ridgway "knew nothing of Marihuana
and had only vaguely heard that cigarettes were
made from some variety of Cannabis or hemp.  His
sole knowledge and interest was confined to the
dried stalks."

The visit might have left the farmers scratching
their heads.  There was nothing secret about
their crop.  It had been written about repeatedly
in the Tribune, and the farm was open to
visitors--some 23,000 stopped by in 1935 alone.
What's more, at the time there were no federal
laws addressing either hemp or marijuana.

Anslinger wanted more information.  Bass pressed
Ridgway, who referred her to H.W.  Bellrose,
president of the World Fibre Corporation, an
Illinois firm that processed the hemp produced by
the Tribune farms.

Bellrose responded to the Federal Bureau of
Narcotics with evangelical enthusiasm.  He
described a machine called a hemp decorticator
that he said could revitalize the American hemp
industry.  The decorticator, Bellrose explained,
reduced the labor needed to process hemp.  He
tried to place the machine in historical
perspective.

"The World Fibre Decorticating machine represents
to the fibre industry what the Eli Cotton Gin was
to the cotton industry," Bellrose wrote, adding
that the machine could eliminate the country's
need for imported hemp.  And he suggested a
reason for McCormick's interest in hemp.

"In the paper pulp industry alone, we are
importing 80% of all paper as paper stock, and
this industry runs well over one billion dollars
per annum," Bellrose wrote.  Biographers of
McCormick have noted that he kept ahead of
William Randolph Hearst in the midwest by
maintaining a cheaper supply of paper than his
rival publisher.

But Bellrose saw more than paper coming from
hemp.  It promised salvation.  "The growing of
hemp by the American farmer means the growing of
a crop that goes into industry and into the human
stomach, and therefore, constitutes the only
resolution of the present day agricultural
problem," he wrote.

Apparently Anslinger was not impressed.  In 1937,
at his insistent urging, Congress passed the
Marihuana Tax Act.  Though it didn't outlaw
marijuana or cannabis, it imposed a tax so high
that legal production became economically
impossible.  Anslinger vowed that hemp farmers
would not be impacted by the new law.

"I would say that they are not only amply
protected under this act, but they can go ahead
and raise hemp just as they have always done,"
Anslinger stated during congressional hearings.
It wasn't true.  Hemp farmers, including those at
the experimental farms, were about to learn that
they'd been regulated out of legal existence.

*

In the spring of 1937, before the tax act was
even debated, farmers at McCormick's estate
planted another hemp crop.  It was a denser crop
than the earlier ones, and harvesting would begin
earlier in the season.  The goal was to limit the
size of the plants to make for an easier harvest.


On September 29, Ridgway reported on the harvest
in the Tribune.  The hemp being dried for
processing, he wrote, was superior to the crop
that had been grown the previous year.  Three
days later, the Marihuana Tax Act went into
effect.  Within two weeks, federal agents visited
the experimental farms and told the operators
that they were subject to the tax act no matter
what they intended to do with the hemp crop.

Ridgway explained the dilemma of the hemp farmers
in his October 11 column.  The tax act applied to
the flowers of hemp, whether or not they were
smokable.  A tax of $1 an ounce was imposed on
growers who'd registered with the government, of
$100 an ounce on those who hadn't.  Ridgway
expected the hemp to sell for about $15 a ton.
Even at the lower tax, the farm faced a loss of
roughly $31,985 on each ton of hemp harvested.

The only way for a grower to avoid the tax would
be to remove every flower before selling the
stalks.  Such a process would cost more than the
crop was worth.  As a final insult, federal
officials told Ridgway the hemp had to be guarded
24 hours a day during the drying process.

"If these requirements are rigidly adhered to by
the administrators of the marihuana law," Ridgway
wrote, "the farm manager likely would decide that
the best way out would be to burn the entire crop
harvested from the fifteen acres this year and
discontinue his efforts to aid in the development
of hemp as a commercial cash crop for farmers in
this country."

Ridgway managed to end his gloomy report on a
somewhat hopeful note.  Elizabeth Bass had told
him that "officials responsible for the
administration of the law...are making a careful
study of the act and its regulations to see what
can be done to cooperate with hemp for useful and
harmless purposes."

They've yet to make a suggestion.

*

The Colonel Robert R.  McCormick Research Center
stands near land once used for the experimental
farms of Cantigny.  The center's archives contain
only one document relating to the experimental
farms--a book adapted from the "Day by Day"
columns.  Officials of the center say they can't
be sure when the last experimental crops were
abandoned.

A more important question goes unanswered too:
why would federal officials so promptly target a
relatively small hemp crop like McCormick's?

Maybe because it was McCormick's.  He despised
President Roosevelt, his onetime Groton
schoolmate.  McCormick's Tribune trafficked in
page-one headlines such as "Moscow Orders Reds in
U.S.  to Back Roosevelt," which ran before the
1936 elections with nothing to back it up.  The
Tribune hailed that year's bumper crop of
sunflowers as "Landon buttons...nodding their
approval" of the Kansas governor whom the
Republicans nominated for president.  FDR
couldn't have minded watching Anslinger tramp
through the colonel's gardens.

Hemp historians offer another reason.  On its
surface, the ongoing hemp ban looks like
collateral damage from the war on marijuana, but
some theorize that hemp was a target all along.

The Emperor Wears No Clothes, a book by Jack
Herer, is sometimes referred to as the hemp
bible.  Revised over several editions since it
was first published in 1985, the book claims to
uncover the "hemp and marijuana conspiracy."

Like more academic examinations of marijuana
prohibition, Herer's book takes up the idea that
cannabis was first outlawed for reasons of race
and culture.  The first state marijuana laws were
imposed in places with significant immigrant
Mexican populations.  It's commonly argued that
these laws, like most drug prohibitions, were
intended to discipline a minority by restricting
a drug popular with it.

But Herer goes further, suggesting that the 1937
federal marijuana law was specifically designed
to stifle a resurgent domestic hemp industry.
Herer identifies two central players: supernarc
Anslinger and newspaper baron William Randolph
Hearst.  Anslinger wrote outrageous stories about
the allegedly deadly effects of marijuana, and
Hearst ran them in his newspapers.  Anslinger had
ties to the Du Pont family, which was
revolutionizing the fiber market with
petrochemical-based synthetics like nylon.
Hearst controlled vast timber reserves that would
have lost much of their value, Herer suggests, if
a cheap and renewable source of paper had become
available.

The story of McCormick's hemp crop, which isn't
mentioned in Herer's book, both supports and
contradicts his thesis.  The tax act did indeed
end McCormick's attempt to promote industrial
hemp.  However, McCormick controlled even more
timberland than Hearst.

McCormick apparently made one last attempt to
grow hemp at his estate.  According to Poor
Little Rich Boy, a biography by Gwen Morgan and
Arthur Veysey, when Japan cut off hemp supplies
from the Philippines during World War II,
McCormick planted new hemp seeds and encouraged
other farmers to do the same.  He hoped to supply
the raw material for the rope needed by the navy.


Washington's Hemp for Victory campaign allowed
some farmers to grow hemp for the war effort.
But according to Morgan and Veysey, federal
narcotics officials raided Cantigny before the
harvest and ripped the hemp plants out of the
ground.

*

Rigid hemp laws remain in place today and are
vigilantly enforced.  The descendant of
Anslinger's bureau is the U.S.  Drug Enforcement
Administration, which in 2001 unilaterally banned
hemp food products--such as hemp milk, hemp
energy bars, hemp tortilla chips, and hemp
pasta--though they have no psychoactive
qualities.  The ban was overturned this year in
court, but the DEA can still appeal.

In 2000 and again in 2001, DEA agents raided a
supposedly sovereign Lakota Indian reservation in
South Dakota and destroyed acres of industrial
hemp growing there, even though tribal leaders
had approved the crop.

Arguments against hemp have grown neither in
sophistication nor in logic since Anslinger's
day.  Here in Illinois, a bill that would have
allowed the study of industrial hemp at the
University of Illinois was vetoed by Governor
Ryan in 2001, despite strong bipartisan support
in both legislative houses.

"I cannot ignore the concerns of the drug
prevention and treatment groups that the ultimate
commercial cultivation and availability of a
product that contains a potentially mind-altering
substance would leave open the prospect of
substance abuse," said Ryan.  A pharmacist before
turning to politics, he should have known better.


Yet benefits suggested by hemp proponents in the
1930s that might have seemed wildly optimistic
then have become reality.  Hemp is being used for
textiles, food, and building materials.  A car
that runs on hemp oil has been developed.  And
hemp is of great interest to environmentalists
because it's a crop that requires little or no
pesticide.  Hemp products continue to sell in the
U.S., even though the hemp itself is always
imported.

Hemp still grows in Illinois.  The Tribune
reported in 1998 that $450,000 had been spent by
state police the previous year to destroy roughly
ten million uncultivated hemp plants, many
descended from the Hemp for Victory effort in
World War II.  If ingested, none of those plants
would have given anyone a buzz.  In 2002 another
633,000 wild hemp plants were obliterated.

The numbers vary from year to year, but the
battle continues.  It may be possible to
willfully ignore hemp's virtues, but its
essential nature makes it difficult to eradicate.
 It is, after all, a weed.  Only months after
it's slashed and burned, hemp sprouts again,
pushing its head to the sun.  

Drug War tells us everyone's body is common property
to be managed by the central government for our own
good, even if it kills us.  This is Communism!
Drug Policy Foundation of Texas

--Bob Ramsey

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Folks, I'm going to move this thread over to Tacitus' Realm, if it's allright w/ ya'll.

It's allright with me. :grin:
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