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GregFL:
Excellent analysis Ginger. One thing tho, this..


Ginger:
"I disagree. Compare what DFAF has actually accomplished to what Art has accomplished over the last three decades. The Semblers are making public policy on the domestic and international levels, controling billions in public funding and have accoplished such a lock on the nation's youth that no school student is safe from random search of their cars, clothing, back-packs and even their bladders. And none of us can escape seeing their propaganda here and there, except to toss out the TV, turn off the radio, drive only on back country roads w/ no billboards and never read a newspaper. These fuckers are EVERYwhere!"


Yes, and no. my point was   Art's goal of "saving the youth" and being the King of the Seedling world was always evident and quite different than the Sembler result of infiltrating program idealogy into government and everyday life. Art in contrast wanted every kid Worshipping HIM and being a seedling...a very different proposition.

Also "professionals" on staff. I agree that they were there to legitamize the program, not to actually do anything. But this in itself is evidence of a difference in the two camps...Art would have never allowed it.  Notice I put professionals in italics in my post and said they really didn't do anything.

my main point is that Art was a bonafide cult leader and the Seed was a cool aide love cult/drug rehab.  The Straight became something else, a machine built upon a cult model with no cult leader but with vast connections that even after the closing of the rehabs continue to perpetuate the drug war and infiltrate totalitarian drug testing into everyday life.

The Seed sucked...and so did straight, and so does DFAF...

Antigen:
Thanks. Yeah, I think we're probably really saying about the same thing anyway. That's why you're no fun to argue with, we think alike enough already. I miss my brother sometimes :wink:

Anyway, I was just coming back here to drop this off:

http://www.reason.com/hod/dk071504.shtml

Very interesting article on the Drug Warriors' strangle hold on both branches of the Dempublican oligarchy.


Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism--how passionately I hate them!
--Albert Einstein
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GregFL:
you can call me bro anytime..

Antigen:
Thanks, that's sweet! But it's OK, my aim is improving. :grin:
For the community to have 10% to 25% of its men unable to vote or unable to access credit or other privileges of citizenship for the rest of their lives in some states creates a permanently diminished
group within society.
Jeremy Travis, Urban Institute
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Anonymous:
Thanks Greg


what about the way Straight kids interacted with each other? Was there a lot of closeness as they knew each other for many, many year, like a big family? or was that just at Seed?  Like did they trust each other woth business decisions or money issues. Were thye like "brothers" and "sisters" or was that just Seed that was that just seed that was able to promote the illusion of a "strong bond". Kike did the Straight kids suffer loyalty issues amongst each other?

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