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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2004, 02:41:00 AM »
Relax. I didn't insult you or negate anything. I think we have a slight misunderstanding.

Richard Armstrong quit RMA and left his position as Voyager Family Head well before I graduated on June 11th, 1988, and that's a fact. I distinctly remember Tim Brace announcing this in front of the house just as he announced the departure of Bret and Lisa Carey. If Armstrong became a bounty hunter after I left and began catching and hauling kids to RMA like a guy named Mike Parr caught me out of Anchorage in January of 1986, I wasn't aware of it. If he returned to RMA as a staffer after my departure I wasn't aware of it. But let me ask you, when you knew Armstrong was he self-employed as a bounty hunter or did he actually return to work on campus employed by RMA again?

Or was he performing a duel role as a staff who ran raps and bounty hunted on the side? Did RMA eventually employ their own bounty hunter(s)?

I am not trying to anger you or anybody else, its just a question. I have heard some weird stuff went down post 1989 and would like clarification.

By the way, if you had to sit through 5 hour long raps with Richard like I did I feel your pain. Richard, however, wasn't even close to the most intimidating rap-runner. That would have been Randy or Caroline, Mare, or Carmen Earle if she was still there. Steve Rookey had some pipes too.
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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2004, 06:23:00 AM »
Caroline was cruel.  She used her training to belittle and demean people.  I've never forgotten her bragging about making bets at a restaurant she could have her waitress crying within 5 minutes.  Lovely person.  Enjoy-Polarbear
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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2004, 10:05:00 PM »
I left RMA in 1987.   Richard was still there.  I really liked Mare.   She was one heck of a caring woman.   I do not remember her being harsh.    I remember her being more on the mark, and self-aware. I donot remember her being much of a screamer either.    

I remember a rap right before Christmas.  I could have gone home visit that Christmas, but I had no where to go.    Everyone in my peer group had been home already at least twice and many had been home three times,  but not me.  The truth was that I did not have a 'home' to go to. Mare was running that rap. Mare let me sit in her lap while I cried about being alone.   For what ever reason, that cry while being held made the holiday season moderately bearable.

Caroline and Randy, however, where another story.   They seemed crazy to me.  They were weird, and at first I was really hurt by the things that'd scream at me in raps.   Then I got to a point, where I knew that they are/were losers.   And, I could sit in raps calmly while they yelled at me for what ever made them happy.  In my Summit, I rember Caroline screaming at me saying that no one loved me, that I'd never have a home, and more items along those lines.  I also remember her exasperation at the fact that I never took the bait.   I did not yell back at her.   I simply sat there and let her yell, while thinking that in a matter of weeks I would never have to see her again.  If I remember correctly she started yelling at me and calling me very mean spirited names for not taking her bait.   The more worked up she became, the more I enjoyed her performance.  I knew her game from before I came to RMA.   She was not the first person I came across that was sadistic enough to enjoy hurting people.    And the best way to get back at a sadist, when you are a powerless child, is to simply shut them out.

The only thing,  I remember about raps with Steve Rookie was him working through his own feelings.  I remember thinking, that maybe things in my life by comparision really were not that bad.
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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2004, 10:47:00 PM »
1991
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /np03.html
Boundarylines
(208) 267-7797
Moyie Springs, Idaho
BOUNDARYLINES, Moyie Springs, Idaho 208-267-7797. Richard Armstrong has established Boundarylines, a crisis care and transport service for teenagers with behavior and emotional problems. His emphasis is immediate intervention when a crisis develops. When appropriate, he will utilize his 22 acre homestead and ranch on the banks of the scenic Moyie River in a remote section of North Idaho to stabilize the child and prepare the personal growth plan the child needs. Richard has successfully worked with children at Rocky Mountain Academy, Pathfinders Way, and Squaw Valley Academy. Before that and before he married and started a family, he learned the ways of the wilderness through trapping, logging, and prospecting in the central Idaho wilderness.

Armstrong's Alaska Adventure
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /np04.html

1993
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... een01.html
Richard Armstrong, in North Idaho, says his Boundarylines is back to offering interim care for children lasting from one day up to one month. He can be reached at 208-265-4888.

BOUNDARYLINES, Bonners Ferry, Idaho 208-267-7797. Richard Armstrong has been assisting families this summer with his "way back in" Interim Program setting for students "between programs" in a cozy 3 level country style home.

1997
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe03.html

http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... een01.html
STEVENSON/ARMSTRONG JUDGEMENT
(Oct. 28, 1999) A federal jury ordered Richard Armstrong to pay $164,595 to Twila Stevenson in a civil action brought by Stevenson. They both had worked together in ?emotional growth? schools and programs as staff, and independently transported self-destructive young people to highly structured schools and programs. This civil legal action was one of several legal actions that started in 1996 when Stevenson and Armstrong terminated a two-year consensual relationship. The specific jury instructions in this action revolved around intentional emotional distress, battery and assault. The jury found for Armstrong that he had not caused emotional distress, and found for Stevenson on the battery and assault accusations, the award being primarily for punitive damages, which was about half of Stevenson?s prior settlement offer. In previous legal decisions, Stevenson?s claims for $50,000 in back pay had been denied, and her accusations of sexual harassment had been dismissed. Previously, Armstrong had voluntarily (and perhaps temporarily) withdrew his counter suit alleging child abuse on Stevenson?s part against Armstrong?s children; his attorney had advised him to handle one thing at a time. Armstrong and his attorney are considering appealing to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeal?s this most recent decision based on numerous evidentiary and other substantive issues arising out of this recently completed civil action.
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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2004, 11:29:00 AM »
Twila Stevenson. Now that's a name I haven't heard in awhile. Twila left RMA shorty after I arrived, I barely remember her. Her and Bruce Wilson had a thing if memory serves.

Twila and Richard Armstrong, wow.
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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2004, 11:39:00 AM »
I remember twila dating Bruce too.
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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2004, 12:52:00 PM »
To be true, I don't know who was paying Richard at the time.
Stacy Wasserman was my Voyageur family head. Caroline is such a bitch, I can't wait to hear where she is.
Will write more about it again later.
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Life is a very wonderful thing.\' said Dr. Branom... \'The processes of life, the make- up of the human organism, who can fully understand these miracles?... What is happening to you now is what should happen to any normal healthy human organism...You are being made sane, you are being made healthy.
     \'That I will not have, \' I said, \'nor can understand at all. What you\'ve been doing is to make me feel very very ill.\'
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« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2004, 04:44:00 PM »
I think the family of the poor kid paid them, RMA refered them.  What a bad ass go wake some kid up in the middle of the night and take him from his home, that is not a bounty hunter that is a baby hunter :flame:
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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2004, 04:56:00 PM »
Unless my parents arranged to have Richard there and paid extra for it because I was deemed a threat or highter risk, be was just the person who "moved me in". I am not inclined to believe that my father would take me three thousand miles across the country only to take me to the unltimate end destination himself to leave me in the care of someone's purpose is to pick up the kids. I think that for whatever reason Richard was on the payroll still in some capacity before he started his own "escort" service.
I have actually mentioned this time to them (my parents) recently and there was no memory of that person because the name was insignificant to them. There was no arrangement between them and Richard, just between them and RMA.
I knew Mike Parr though. I ran into him countless times traveling and when he would deliver a new student. He was once employed to excort me back to Bonners from SUWS. He didnt' really trust CEDU ed. and said he hated having to bring me back. I was starved and I wasn't running...I HAD been tenderized for my return to RMA.Parr was unnecessary as was Richard's perverted power play.
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Life is a very wonderful thing.\' said Dr. Branom... \'The processes of life, the make- up of the human organism, who can fully understand these miracles?... What is happening to you now is what should happen to any normal healthy human organism...You are being made sane, you are being made healthy.
     \'That I will not have, \' I said, \'nor can understand at all. What you\'ve been doing is to make me feel very very ill.\'
                         -Anthony Burgess
                      A Clockwork Orange

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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2004, 05:00:00 PM »
I was at SUWS and I was trying to remember the guy who escorted me down there.  i actually stayede at his house one night with his family.  He lived in Bonners Ferry, he was pretty cool, I kept asking him what he would do if I ran and he said call the cops.
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« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2004, 09:36:00 AM »
I really like Ron Smith. He was a sheriff up in Bonners. I stayed with foster homes for a while while refusing to return to RMA. Ron Smith escorted me to SUWS and assisted Parr when it was time to come back. Smith was a good gut who also told me that he didnt' trust all the goings on there! He came to my graduation though, and it did mean a lot to me. I was probably one of the only students who had an unrelated cop come to watch the festivities. I would like to talk to him again.
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Life is a very wonderful thing.\' said Dr. Branom... \'The processes of life, the make- up of the human organism, who can fully understand these miracles?... What is happening to you now is what should happen to any normal healthy human organism...You are being made sane, you are being made healthy.
     \'That I will not have, \' I said, \'nor can understand at all. What you\'ve been doing is to make me feel very very ill.\'
                         -Anthony Burgess
                      A Clockwork Orange

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« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2004, 10:13:00 AM »
SUWS was a trip, I was out there with one other kid from RMA.  We had two other kids from straight of the street, I think what helped them more than survival was our horror stories about RMA.  My two instructors out there were husband and wife, they thought RMA was bullshit.  The wife came and saw me at RMA, of course I was on a fulltime she joked about helping me escape.
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« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2004, 04:39:00 AM »
Excuse me, but what the hell is SUWS?
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« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2004, 08:50:00 AM »
SUWS- School of Urban and Wilderness Survival.
A survival program kids from RMA would go to before ascent.
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« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2004, 09:51:00 AM »
did you know that SUWS also stemmed from a church group?
1988 was the first year in existance. I have all the paperwork...it was truly a different time. Marketing was the least concern of the company.
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Life is a very wonderful thing.\' said Dr. Branom... \'The processes of life, the make- up of the human organism, who can fully understand these miracles?... What is happening to you now is what should happen to any normal healthy human organism...You are being made sane, you are being made healthy.
     \'That I will not have, \' I said, \'nor can understand at all. What you\'ve been doing is to make me feel very very ill.\'
                         -Anthony Burgess
                      A Clockwork Orange