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This is absolutely unbelievable

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mikehunt:
you don't agree with whom?

anyway, of course you pulled yourself out... nobody else can pull anybody else out of anything; it is always one's own choice to make internal changes.  you're the only one who has ultimate control over your body and its functions (cognition, etc.)

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"Not sure I agree there with you. I too had low self esteem made much lower there. I too had suicidal tendencies that; really, due to the complicated issue of such a thing, have increased. About five years ago I told my parents that if I ever did really do it they should be looking to RMA for a reason why. It was a hard couple of weeks though, but we pulled through together. It is really too deep for them to understand, but, yes: i was depressed to begin with. I think I may have pulled myself up on my own. Bonners Ferry made me utterly reliant on the acceptance of others. My esteem issue is undoubtedly worse than it would have been without RMA. I can only assume the same goes for my depression. I don't feel like this when I think/write about ANY other subject. So..."

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NivekOgre:

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it is always one's own choice to make internal changes.  you're the only one who has ultimate control over your body and its functions (cognition, etc.)

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This is one of the things they were always saying that was a real piece of work. "You can cure yourself from cancer by feeling your feelings"
You are not the only thing that has control over your body and its functions. Go back to school and study some science and you'll find out it's not that simple. I don't know what CEDU is telling people right now but when I was there they had some real b.s.
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mikehunt:
um, ok... i'm into holistics.  i believe that you can cure yourself.  this is definitely not something that i ever learned at cedu...  so, you think that other people control your reactions?  you won't hold yourself accountable when you punch someone in the face because they pissed you off?  that sucks.. you must feel like such a victim when "bad" things happen in your life.
why don't you tell me a bit about your spiritual beliefs?

mikehunt:
by the way, you have to feel your feelings to cure them.  and by feelings, i don't only mean emotions.  it's about self awareness.  if you would've felt your body running down years ago, perhaps you could've prevented it from becoming terminally ill, for example.
once you are ill, you can keep yourself alive... they said that my grandmother was going to die very soon due to her condition.  they never told her this, and so she lived on long past her death sentence because she wasn't ready to go yet.

[ This Message was edited by: mikehunt on 2004-07-12 08:01 ]

NivekOgre:
I'm surprised you didn't hear that "heal yourself" stuff from them. Maybe they actually gave up on it. I was there quite a while ago an the term holistics was not even coined in society. They preached this regularly. My philosophy is found in the curriculum of a Biophysics Phd. You definitely contribute to your state of health, I'm not saying that you are not involved at all but there are external biochemical organisms that can and do affect you.

Spiritually, I finally got sober through AA. Going into that I was agnostic (which CEDU more or less advocated when I was there), but in AA I found a God which is some power greater than myself (I don't use any God from religion). I don't get into anything more than that.

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