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GregFL:
that day is etched in my memory, but I never knew her name because of the whole guy/chick deal when we weren't even allowed to look at the girls or face certain stand up come down sessions.
I remember she clearly had a black eye. The seed used to bring parents in to do the child abuse for them, which was far worse then being beat by a stranger, IMO.  I also remember another guy that happened to, then his dad pulled him out and it made NATIONAL news. Still no one came to save us. I remember sitting in the group and actually hearing people getting hit out of sight range, and them making us sing to drown out the sound.
I still have the article about the guy and in fact passed out copies at the st pete conference.

METALGOD8:

METALGOD8:
Attempted Murder: In the SS Springfield camp, we were in group one morning when an oldcomer 4th phaser  came in with Senior Staff and was paraded in the front. His neck had a dark red circle around it, and his eyes were totally red from being strangled by his newcomer. The staff then brought in the newcomer responsible, then all hell broke loose in the chairs. That newcomer was blasted for at least an hour, then to my amazement, the oldcomer agreed to let him stay on front row, and not go to jail. ??? Excuse me, but why do I disagree with that? If some guy tried to kill me like that, I would have to call the cops! He didn't have a drug problem, he was a friggin looney tune!

MommaDebi:
WOW.



 There are so many things that I have blacked out about the experiences I had there.



I think I remember some of that.Beatings always occured within my home...so i guess i never realised how wrong they were.


Your are right FREEDOM, where were the people that were supposed to protect us? Who decided that we were so bad? I don't recall any adult talking to me upon my entry there except for "betty".


I still am unable to fully trust people that are supposed to be "helping" me and I am 43 now. This all happened to me when I was 14-15.



I remember the very day I stopped going to "Old Timers Raps", I had gone to the Elk's pool with an exseedling Mark Sibilia, he was in PAR and sober, we ran into some Seedlings and they would not "talk to me"!! I was stunned and hurt to think these people who said they "Loved Me" would not trust me to have good judgement with regards to my friends.


I raised my hand at the rap that night wanting to talk about how hurt I was but was told, within 2 sentences, that "if I had nothing to contribute to the rap I needed to sit down". The topic that night at the grad's rap was "how to get people into the Seed".....
I never went back



I started using again shortly thereafter, my choice, because I had bought into all the crap and had felt that I had a place of safety within the group, because there was absolutely none at home.I so desperately needed a place of safety.


I left home within a year, following a particularily brutal beating from my father.



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[ This Message was edited by: MommaDebi on 2002-07-18 14:02 ]

FueLaw:
That is part of the entire farce of "The Seed".  There wasn't much rehabilitation going on , just a whole lot of intimidation. I was scared of getting my ass kicked, I was scared of getting started over or put on a refresher, when I went to school I was scared that a fellow seedling would see me talking to the wrong person and tell someone ect...



The reason the whole concept of the seed, and those programs which followed, is so bogus is that they tore down a persons value system as well as thier personal support system(their friends) and replaced it with nothing. When you got out of the freakin place what did you have ? No real friends , nobody you could trust, and a whole bunch of confusion about life and the world in general. The whole concept and they way they tried to sell the place was a farce.



In addition the crap that they pulled on kids who where under 18 was so illegal and unconsitutional it's off the chart.Locking people up against there will when there are no pending criminal charges against them is clearly illegal. Even your parents can't legally do this. I will have more to say about the legal aspect of all of this in a few days.





[ This Message was edited by: FueLaw on 2002-07-18 15:34 ]

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