Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones
Lets get real
Anonymous:
I have been reading posts on here for quite some time. I worked at CEDU recently and went through the entire emotional growth process. The propheets although a little odd at times were not abusive and I will not have to devote many years of my life to recovery from abuse in them. (There are a lot of experiences in them that need to be changed and that is happening)I believe that some people on here exaggerate their experience for shock value. Most of the people that I know that work there are there for the right reasons. Because they love working with kids and devote their lives to it. I will admit that some of them were trained under Mel's philosophy and are having a hard time admitting that there might be a different better way, but the schools are going through major reform right now to come in line with modern methodologies.
I also know that some of the people who post on here regularly crossed ethical lines when they left CEDU and attempt to convince people here that they know what they are talking about. I also know that there are therapists that post on here who claim they know what happens in the propheets but are only going off of heresay as I know that they did not go through the propheets.
If you are devoting years of your life to recovering from so-called "abuse" then maybe you went to work for CEDU for the wrong reasons. I did not work for CEDU to learn something about myself, I went to work to help kids and because I maintained this focus the experience was different for me. There were defintley philosophies in use that were far outdated so I worked to set an example and let people know that there is a different way that works and had success in this endeavor.
It just bothers me to see alot of the negativity that is rampant on this website and people ignore a lot of the positive things that happen there. There are some quality people who work there and continue to work there to help kids and they deserve "kudos" for that. I know there are people who visit this site that have some positve things to say and I encourage you to do so.
I am sure there are peope here who will have a heyday with this post. You can find something wrong with any place that you work, and you can also find a lot of good if you so choose. More people on here should question the intent of people who see only evil and wrongdoing.
Out
JT
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2004-05-14 08:25:00, Anonymous wrote:
I believe that some people on here exaggerate their experience for shock value.
JT
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On the other hand, you know how rape victims almost always remember their attackers as having been much larger, stronger and more frightening looking than they turn out to be? Maybe people who exagerate their experience are not even doing it intentionally to begin with, let alone doing it for the purpose you suppose. Or maybe they're not the ones w/ the more distorted view at all. Ever consider that?
What a distressing contrast there is between the radiant intelligence of the child and the feeble mentality of the average adult.
-- Sigmund Freud
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Anonymous:
If they truly feel they have been raped(by CEDU) there are much better avenues to deal with their emotions than the way it is handled on here. I would not consider this site a teraputic forum.
Let it all come and go as it will. Enjoy it all, but never make your happiness or success dependent on an attachment to any thing, any place, and particularly, any person.
~ Wayne Dyer - 10 Secrets for Success and Inner Peace ~
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2004-05-14 09:11:00, Anonymous wrote:
"If they truly feel they have been raped(by CEDU) there are much better avenues to deal with their emotions than the way it is handled on here.
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No, that's not what I was suggesting. Just that the psychological effect is very much the same. The term "mind rape" or "mind fuck" resonates w/ a lot of program vets, regardless of the housing structure or corporate banner under which we experienced the Program.
--- Quote ---I would not consider this site a teraputic forum.
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Me either. This is more of an ongoing, impromptu exposé. At least that was my intention.
The disrespect for the possession laws fosters a disrespect for laws and the system in general... On top of this is the distinct impression among the youth that some police may use the marihuana laws to arrest people they don't like for other reasons, whether it be their politics, their hair style or their ethnic background.
Marihuana: A Signal of Misunderstanding
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Hell on Wheels:
Hi! as the resident asshole on this board I feel the need to weigh in on this subject. Anti-gen is right. Of course there is a lot of negativity on this site, that's sort of what it is supposed to be. The point is to educate all people into the mind fucking that occurs at cedu, not see new kids enroll there. Either you are a CEDUized person, or just plain stupid, and no this site is not therapy, by any means, but it is a place to vent and share stories. Because all program vets will agree that it is impossible to tell the story properly, since the whole thing was a sham, lies built upon lies, deceit and treachery, and all that stuff.
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