Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones
Lets get real
Anonymous:
Thanks for making my point. For the record not all program vets agree. This is also more than just a place to vent and share stories if the goal is to "not see kids enroll". If parents want to send their kids there great, if you want to make it your mission to stop them more power to ya. If you allowed yourself to be "mind fucked" then your bad. I think I'll claim stupidity after all-
"Stupid is as stupid does."
Forest Gump
Anonymous:
I am one of the staff who began the process of making necessary changes in the program, specifically the profeets. I was "crucified." I am very happy that there are changes taking place since the methods that were practiced at CEDU for many, many years were criminal. And I believe you come from knowing because it is the "old staff" who do resist these changes. They structured their life around the morphed philosophies of CEDU's founder. Humiliating and screaming at kids to get control is what they know. They won't change easily, especially since they have no other skills when it comes to working with kids.
However, knowing that CEDU is in this transformation from harmful to helpful (if that be the case), how can they justify the cost to parents? How can they justify their policies which restrict kids from communicating with their families? Do you as a parent want to send your child to a program with this track record?
As far as the "emotional" posts on this thread, there is a reason for the feelings. The feelings may very well be exagerated, but I guarentee you that the stories are true! I worked there for many years, and I have seen evidence of every abuse listed here, and more. If you have as much passion about your love of CEDU as we do for our hate of CEDU, please feel free to express them.
cody:
new around here - but I've been thinking.
it's obvious that some of the practices of cedu are abusive, we all experienced that and if you dont see it then you're just some kinda blind. on the other hand, it does help *some* people. I remember after ascent i was f*cked up. they should NEVER have sent me there, it broke me, i couldnt talk for like 8 months without breaking down- felt like some kinda vaccuum had just been weilded on me and took away everything- it was not healthy and it was not theraputic and it was "mind rape" and it was totally wrong, every second of it, especially conciously watching staff that i knew didnt agree with what was happening stand by and watch seemingly helpless. on the other hand, i know some kids who went to ascent and stopped doing stupid sh*t, had a sense of courage when they came back and it actually helped them. anyhow, i was talking to theresa one day and she said yeah, they screwed up on you,- apparently there is a screening process because some kids are not the right emotional type for the place, and (this is the worst part) some kids slip through the cracks: some kids should not have been there, even by their standards. its like the death penalty or something "whoops, you were innocent" and nobody even gets a sorry.
i think cedu might be like that, and parts of it better for everyone and parts of it not good for anyone except a dangerous few. Because i know people that it helped, and they arnt pro-cedu brainwashees, they just kids livin. anyhow, i guess some parts of northwest helped me and i did learn some stuff that i didnt learn growing up in my psycho family about how to love and stuff and some parts i despise with all my heart, they make me feel sick to know that people like that have any form of power over any kids who might be screwed up anyway and these idiots are let loose on this twisted sadomasochistic power trip against people who maybe they are scared or or maybe they have some internal resentment or some sh*t but thats not fair and it should not be happening, not to anybody.
Anonymous:
Well how CEDU is that?? Do I detect a "it's not them it's you theme here"?? Weird.
Anonymous:
no, because they are wholly responsible for the screening process, and instead of working towards meeting the needs of everybody they have this thought that everybody needs this specific process and can be forced to fit it with enough pressure. also, theres a conflict of interests between taking the careful time to decide what would be right for each individual kid and the bank they make off every kids parents. plus if someone said, no this place isnt right for so and so- that would be admitting that the processes isnt almighty and universal which would shatter some ideals, and i think that this desperate clinging to the ideal instead of the actual is whats wrong with the place and what leads to the narrowminded refusal that anything is wrong, which in turn permitts abuse.
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