Are you f-n serious? First of all, to try and draw a comparison between the two is just stupid. I mean, I guess if you want people to think that we're all a bunch of impulsive tongued nitwits, then he was "right on" in his choice of words. Otherwise, those people were human beings, just like you and I. We invaded their country! We were the ones who decided to take the Middle East on in the first place, and they?ve been at war for how many thousands of years now? Of course they want to kill us! They think of us as the enemy! Isn't that what war is?! All of the reasons the US gave for going to war were false and unproven. We found no weapons of mass destruction! Our president has made a fool of himself! Yes, we were attacked by terrorists first, but I truly believe that that was a more personal attack at our current administration, (mainly between the Bush family and Bin Laden family) and didn?t warrant taking Iraq to war. (My opinion, different topic.)
Regardless, Richard said that our abuse was
worse than theirs. He's not talking about if they deserved it or not, he's comparing the abuse.
THAT'S what makes it so STUPID. How would he know, was he a POW in Iraq too? No. What an unproductive way to get people to lend an ear in our direction. Why negate someone else's agony to make a point?
I agree with the Anonymous who said,
?bit of a overstatement to say that people in Straight were treated worse than Iraqi prisoners. Strong, inaccurate statements like these only reduce the credibility of the people that spout them.?
And,
"If people?s stories about Straight are to be believed, inaccurate statements must be excluded, especially strong statements meant solely for the purpose of agitation and inflammation. Those who have knowledge and education look for fallacy, and when it is seen, the stories are discounted. The more fallacy that is introduced, the less credible everyone?s story becomes to people. It will be very important to me that I be viewed as credible, not to survivors of Straight, but to the scientific community. That should be important to survivors of Straight as well. Do not practice self-sabotage. It harms us all."
Torture is torture, and wrong despite what type you?re referring to, but to take away from one, to defend another, is unjust. So, to answer your questions, yes, there was at least one guy, (
that we know of) beaten to death. They were forced to act out sodomy on each other. They had electrodes attached to one guy?s testicles, and were shocking him if he moved from the box he was standing on. Not to mention, they didn?t get diapers, they were naked, and forced to pile on top of each other. I could only guess that they couldn?t have had acceptable facilities to urinate and defecate into, nor opportunities to bathe at all for that matter, and I?ll just betcha they weren?t/aren't getting a proper night?s sleep either. Needless to say, the way those prisoners were/are treated, who knows what bones they?ve broken that remain untreated. Do you really think they're giving them adequate medical attention when all is said and done? On a mental note, do you actually think you're mental anguish has been worse than theirs? Just thank God you're not an Iraqi citizen. That statement is pure rubbish. Who are you to quantify someone else?s suffering?
My last problem with your post Leigh Bright, is to say that, ?The soldiers that did that must have been from Texas or New Jersey? just sounds really opinionated and irrational of you. I may know what you mean, but the rest of the world, who know nothing about the Straights, wouldn't.
I think a lot of people might be afraid of speaking out AGAINST what Richard is doing, at least on
this board anyway. I for one can't continue to think that what he's doing, at the moment, is in any way
helping us win our war against Straight, Inc. and Straight-like treatment centers.
I hope he proves me wrong.
