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Offline Helena Handbasket

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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2004, 02:18:00 PM »
I've been thru nearly all the posts on here - seem to have a lot of program defenders.  Makes me wonder if KHK wasn't just more adept at their brainwashing tactics.  Perhaps that is the reason why kids from LIFE were transferred - these were probably kids who couldn't be scrubbed clean by Petermann's camp.

I'd like to hear from anyone who was transferred to KHK from STRAIGHT or LIFE - your thoughts on this?

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« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2004, 08:02:00 PM »
Actually quite the opposite. A group of parents did not agree with the harsh treatment and decided that their kids needed some kind of help but wanted to make sure it was good help and that their kids were in a safe enviroment. That is why KHK has so many clinical staff. I think that you will find a lot of KHK supporters because of that and simply the fact that the kids in there are not kids that used drugs a few times. They have an extensive intake process that is done by a professional not another client.
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« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2004, 10:41:00 PM »
Thats a lie
I remember several people that got high once, or only drank a few times
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« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2004, 11:10:00 PM »
Not in KHK that I ever heard of. I have never heard of the program you were in.
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« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2004, 11:22:00 PM »
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"Thats a lie

I remember several people that got high once, or only drank a few times"
When I was there I never heard of anyone being in KHK that got high only once or drank a few times. Were you ever in KHK?? I have never heard of Kidscope. Maybe you are confused.
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« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2004, 12:05:00 AM »
The only KidsCope in Columbus, Ohio I have ever been able to find existed is a program for kids who have parents with cancer that helps the family deal with the situation.
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« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2004, 03:55:00 PM »
i was in a branch of khk
the staff was from khk
where do you think they got their experience from?
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« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2004, 03:55:00 PM »
yeah...cause only if you can find it on the internet does it exist!

at least in your small version of reality
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« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2004, 04:31:00 PM »
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"i was in a branch of khk

the staff was from khk

where do you think they got their experience from?"
I am not calling you a liar. I just was very surprised to hear that there was a branch of KHK because the KHK program does not acknowledge having a branch. Someone must of just decided to just start their own program and took some people from KHK with them. They are in no way affiliated with KHK. God knows what they are doing over there.
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« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2004, 07:49:00 PM »
The only branch of KHK that I know of is in the old Straight building on Branch Hill Guniea Pike in Milford, Ohio (a suburb of Cincy)

Prior to being in that location they operated in Northern Kentucky.

They are on the WWW at http://khk.cc

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« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2004, 09:28:00 PM »
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"The only branch of KHK that I know of is in the old Straight building on Branch Hill Guniea Pike in Milford, Ohio (a suburb of Cincy)



Prior to being in that location they operated in Northern Kentucky.



They are on the WWW at http://khk.cc



Don"
This is also the only one I have ever heard of. According to KHK there is only one program with no other branches.
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« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2004, 10:53:00 PM »
I graduated KHK Hebron in 84' and would be glad to honestly respond to any questions about their philisophy and practices.

It was based upon the same steps and phases as Straight/Life even with  rotating foster homes. The Raps were pretty much the same with Open Meeting, Parents rap etc...
Not many pile-ons in group. Most of the violence happened when someone tried to escape. A few kids got sat upon when they refused to motivate for a few weeks. This was shortly before most of them would disappear and never return.

The stripping of responsibilities and sense of self (belt loop transfers included) was the same. Staff that were full of shit were running raps. I graduated realizing that the staff was totally into the images, makeup, cigarettes etc.....that they were preaching against. I decided to never go back after the first  seven step reunion. Still see a few of the folk. some are still sober and some are not. Some are dead. I'm over it and have my own business and family. Since finding the formits I experienced one last bout with anger towards my parents for deceiving me into the program and changing my destiny without my ability to respond.
I've since let go as I have children and would do anything except put them in KHK in order to keep them alive if they decided to head down a self-destructive path.

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« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2004, 12:28:00 AM »
well there was one in the outskirts of columbus ohio in canal winchester in a shopping strip

jordie or gordie - i forget (a total dick by the way),mike hilt, some bug eyed bitch named michelle, a girl i like heidi, amy bornman, jeff travis (whose mom was on the board of kidscope), tracy - i forget her last name, danielle (total snotty bitch) were all on staff there and all from khk

i was in kidscope from 87 to 89 and it closed early 90's like 91
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« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2004, 04:25:00 AM »
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On 2004-05-22 21:28:00, just_a_chick_03 wrote:

"well there was one in the outskirts of columbus ohio in canal winchester in a shopping strip



jordie or gordie - i forget (a total dick by the way),mike hilt, some bug eyed bitch named michelle, a girl i like heidi, amy bornman, jeff travis (whose mom was on the board of kidscope), tracy - i forget her last name, danielle (total snotty bitch) were all on staff there and all from khk



i was in kidscope from 87 to 89 and it closed early 90's like 91"


   Do you remember who the program director was or who started the program? Just curious.
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« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2004, 12:35:00 PM »
no
his name was ron, and he was a big guy, very tall

after him was derek - nice guy, blond, also from khk, and then a guy named randy (i think)
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