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Anonymous:
My experience with CEDU is not as scary as the postings I have read in this frightening forum. I was one of those kids that was sent to CEDU specifically for bad grades (in my honors classes!). It boggles me how they could ever accept me. However, I can say that CEDU wiped my grade transcript clean so I could get into a good college. Eventually (after 2 years in college), I think I turned my life around and have become the success story I have always wanted. Despite constant reminders from my parents, I know I did it on my own, but owe my acceptance to a good college entirely to CEDU. I am the only true success story I know of. I can't repeat that I do not attribute my success to CEDU enough times. CEDU did save my ass and I owe it something in the end.

That being said, I know that CEDU violates certain rights of non-convicted minors. I never had a psychiatric consultation. However, we all know that the second I acted out of line I would have been punished to the full extent. Also, I know about meetings from a certain Dennis D where staff were lectured for the amount of pulled students a month.

Now, let me make it clear. I think that many of the comments in the anti-CEDU forums come out of misplaced hatred and the inability to mature enough to realize there is more to life than the ?freedom? of today?s misdirected youth. Today, I support the drug war and do not support many of the things I did in high school. If it took a CEDU to help my child, then I would do it in a second. I do not believe CEDU is an effective program for truly troubled youth, but my beliefs about the subject are irrelevant. Also, I believe that many of these arguments are written in a juvenile tone which no one in a position to do something about the problem would take seriously. Remove your curse words and other exclamatory remarks.

Finally, a call to action. With all the haunting stories on this forum, is anyone bold enough to do something about it? If this is true, and you are a former or present staff member or student, and you do not act? you are a coward. Take this topic to an ethicist for research, a journalism student who may have time to research Brown Schools and report on the negative, or take a personal story to take to a human rights attorney or advocacy group. The private organizations and students have a lot more resources to confront issues like this than confronting Brown Schools through internet forums.


No matter how much you complain about how bad your personal CEDU experience was, they still make money. Being a pre-law student, I have a trial lawyer as a mentor. If one of you can be bold enough to bring a class action law suit against Brown schools (such as cancer victims against cigarette companies and fat people against McDonalds), the lawyer will make most of the case. My guess is with the amount of money Brown Schools pulls in a year, he would take the case for free. His fees would be compensated as a result of the law suit, and the money each plaintiff will stand to make would be considerable. There are enough of you out there. If it happens, I am sure many will be waiting.

I was angry at CEDU when I left. My action was writing to Petersons that has the audacity to list CEDU amongst such boarding schools as Choate and PA Andover (which I and George W. Bush attended at one point). The summary in Petersons details a school I have never heard of. I think removing CEDU from Petersons is one of the first steps, as my parents found CEDU through Petersons. This is a more rational step that I support, but I recommend you head my words if you want to change the system. If your own emotions to motivate you, maybe the money involved would remove your cowardice.

Be safe. Sorry for any misspellings or writing errors that may discredit my writing. Believe me, it comes from the heart? and my sleepy brain.

Anonymous:
Also, the avenues listed in the orginal post are going to be much more effective than any appeal to the media.

Anonymous:
I think I have missed your point.  CEDU's not so bad, but you want to sue them???????

What side of the fence are you on?  I understand that the way people express themselves on this board are not to your liking, but isn't that the point - everyone having the freedom to express themselves exactly the way they want.

I'm very glad that you got yourself into a good college, and perhaps CEDU was the reason for it, but does that mean that all of the people who were damaged by CEDU don't count?

What in the world is your agenda?  Are you feeling confused over your loyalty toward CEDU for saving your education, though you would love to see a law suit brought against them?

I don't get it.

Anonymous:
I don't have an agenda, just opinion... like it or not. I have my own feelings about CEDU, but have seen the downside on a much smaller scale than the frightening comments I came across in this forum. I personally do not want to put Brown Schools out of business. However, if events on this bulletin board are not exaggerated, then there are many more effective ways to combat your CEDU problem than complaining.

Certain things do not translate to a problem with CEDU that are consistently being brought up on anti-CEDU forums and websites. Certain exceptional events are tragic, but not commonplace enough to warrant shutting CEDU down or even changing the system.

However, I do recognize from this board that many of you still have resentment against CEDU and more commonplace problems with the program. I know about these problems and consider them completely reasonable. If it bothered you enough, you should do something about it! However, I dealt with the same day to day problems of corruption and student censorship that most of you did. In the end, I decided that these problems did not affect me enough to pursue an active role in changing the system. So, I accept them and CEDU. I see most of the complainers in the same shoes, if it bothered you enough; take an aggressive, but smart stance on the issue.

To Roy- congratulations, you have proved me wrong. These efforts are a complete rebut to my argument. However, you are only one person. As far as using channels of government and media, I can tell you that your effort may be ineffective or at best, extremely slow. Legislation is very ineffective, partisan and sluggish. To succeed through a channel of government, you must know someone; catch someone?s eye, etc. My advice to you is pursuing the channels I have suggested. Rely on the selfish interests of people that could make a name for themselves or put money in their pockets. Fortunately, no matter what the real world is like the people powerful enough to make a change (positive or negative) speak in a voice that can be heard. Truly effective change is brought by appealing to these people. You are one of the few active representatives of the anti-Brown schools stance. This puts a lot of responsibility on you and your peers to make this issue appeal to the masses, to make you and your constituents (the students of CEDU) seem educated, sane and creditable.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2004-03-30 18:23:00, Anonymous wrote:

Fortunately, no matter what the real world is like the people powerful enough to make a change (positive or negative) speak in a voice that can be heard. Truly effective change is brought by appealing to these people.

--- End quote ---


I see where we're missing eachother. I've never thought of myself as a slave. I guess I'll have to work on that, huh?
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