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Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2004-03-24 18:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
So Karen, what's a kid to do if their parent is a BORN AGAIN PROGRAM FANATIC?????? Pray that there really is a God to deliver them from such evil???
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No, you pray that there's not `cause, despite everything, you love them and wish things could be better.
Busy, curious, thirsty fly, Drink with me, and drink as I.
-- William Oldys (1696-1761): On a Fly drinking out of a Cup of Ale.
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Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2004-03-24 19:39:00, warriorprincess wrote:
what can i do to make up for the awful mistake i've made by sending him there
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Realize that you made the mistake long before you ever sent him to WWASP for repair. You made the mistake when you started to entertain the idea that your child was flawed beyond a mother's love. Acknowledge that and talk with your feet thereafter and your son might respect you as much as I do my dad.
Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception."
Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger, 1916, Ch.9
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Anonymous:
Thank You Gina.
Call me sometime, just to say High.
Ginger - I wish I could provide you and Deb with an reply that was better able to help you have a clearer idea of the dynamics behind all this confusion; but I can't.
If I begin to try and give a detailed explanation I would be bound to get facts confused and so its best I don't try.
Still, remember, I have been pretty close to the situation as it unfolded; and so was aware of how it played out at the time; and in no way felt ALA was being shady or any thing less than honorable and sacrificial on behalf of the kids and their families.
And remember, I do have Some ability to smell a rat and detect manipulation by program operators.
I wish my memory were sharper; so I could give you a precise account of events and explain why the comments aren't as contradictory as they seem; but with out writing things down, I can't keep details in mind - they just evaporate into the myst of my once upon a time smoke addled brain.
I've been trying to think why you and Deb view the web site as you do; and I wonder if it isn't simply that you aren?t accustomed to reading Christian writing? I don't see it at all in the light you folks do, and I think maybe its simply b/c I am used to reading such writing from one Christian to another.
And yes Ginger, I do believe all that 'rot'.
And rest assured, I will keep an eye on my pants leg. :wink:
Red Faced Screaming Anon:
As far as I'm concerned you have long sense proven yourself devoid of any scruples whatsoever.
Your opinion has long sense lost all validity.
CraigRogers:
Dear Debra,
The answers to your concerns are in my original statement. God gave us two ears (in this case two eyes) and one mouth (in this case a keyboard). After reading your statements of judgment against me and Abundant Life Academy, I propose that you use your ears twice as much as you use your mouth. It might help your understanding.
From your correspondences on this forum IT SEEMS like you have been hurt deelpy and that your wounds have created a nasty pit of bitterness in your heart. It also SEEMS that you feel the need to spew out your bitterness on anyone you fell deserves it. However, as I said... IT SEEMS... I dont know you, and it would be very unfair of me to make such radical statement and judgments against you without knowing the whole picture about you. So, based on my extremely limited knowledge and experience of you it would be ridiculous for me to make assumptions about you. It would also be unfair. Perhaps you can learn something from this.
It is real funny that some people so easily make judgments against me and these very same people have absolutely no ability to do what I do. In otherwords, they offer no solution but feel empowered to judge and criticize the efforts of people who are doing something about the problem. Stop criticizing others and get out there and be a part of the solution!
Kids in the US are in trouble, and Debra you are not offering a solution. You just have complaints and judgments against those who are willing to give their all. I would love to give you my job for just one day. Come and work with me and see what I go through.
I was one of these "troubled teens". I put my parents through hell and back. In my case, my problems were not caused by my parents. It was my choices that caused my troubles. My parents did everything they could to help me, but ultimately I rejected everything until the consequences of my choices totally devasted me. For years I hated my parents for the things they did (in reality I hated myself for what I was doing to them but it was easier to blame them for my troubles). However, now... I am extremely grateful for all that they did. They are truly great people. I hope to be half the parent they were.
Also, I am not making money at this job (give me a break!). To me this is a calling. If I make any money I give it back to parents that cant afford help. As a matter of fact, I paid money last year to work for Abundant Life Academy. If you could spend just one day in my shoes I think you would get a whole different picture.
To help you understand the statements in my original statement.... Josue and Patricia were not hired to provide anything but the housing and food services. Meaning, they were the landlords and managers of the property. They were also supposed to provide for the food services (meals). I brought in my own professional staff to care for the students (teachers, mentors, supervisors, etc).
I am sorry that you feel compelled to be judge and jury and have no desire to know the facts. You are welcomed to give me a call, and, any solutions you might have to help us to empower our students would be greatly appreciated. We are always striving to get better.
As a matter of fact, we are erecting a home for some homeless people. We sure could use some labor help. Why dont you come down and help us help others. Spending your time being a part of the solution is much better then criticizing those who are a part of the solution.
God bless,
Craig Rogers
435-644-8297
Anonymous:
Ah, the Passion of The Program Parent (that would be Karen Z.) beating the drum of salvation, this time for a program based in St. George that does not thump the Book of Mormon, but the Holy Bible.
This would be downright funny if not for the fact that children are at risk of being recruited by psome rather dubious people with a "calling" and a self-proclaimed talent for helping kids.
Now where have we heard this before?
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