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Anonymous:
Well guys, as I said, I'm not up on the details and so I don't feel I can comment on most of these things with enough clarity to be helpful. Its not that anything was a big secret; I just have trouble recalling the details.
I am personally not at all concerned that Craig is any thing less than honest and trustworthy and committed to the very best for the kids. I've seen many examples of this in the time I've know him. I trust him. Dispite having been burnt by this 'industry', I trust him. My experience with him has been such that he has earned my trust. He has never at any point given me reason to think I shouldn't.
You may certainly chose to remain skeptical; and in light of your own experience its understandable you would. If I had not had the experience with ALA I have had, I might join you - but as I know them, I know better.
I do feel strongly, the students come first at ALA; and the fact they felt no hardship due to misappropriated funds was due to the sacrifice of the Roger's family and the rest of the ALA staff.
I can't prove this to you guys; but I do myself feel confident it is so.
And Ginger - I'm certain no one is pissing on my pants leg; but thanks for your concern
:wink:

Anonymous:
Anybody beginning to notice that one parent's passion for their program of choice is really no different than any other parent's passion for their P.O.C.?  

It's all based on PATIENCE, FAITH and NO WAIVERS (meaning trust the program 24/7).

So Karen, what's a kid to do if their parent is a BORN AGAIN PROGRAM FANATIC?????? Pray that there really is a God to deliver them from such evil???

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Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2004-03-24 18:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

I am personally not at all concerned that Craig is any thing less than honest and trustworthy and committed to the very best for the kids.

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Then...


--- Quote ---I do feel strongly, the students come first at ALA; and the fact they felt no hardship due to misappropriated funds was due to the sacrifice of the Roger's family and the rest of the ALA staff.
I can't prove this to you guys; but I do myself feel confident it is so.

--- End quote ---

But... but, Craig Rogers seems to be saying... no, wait, it doesn't just seem that way, he is saying that this other guy failed "misserably" to provide room, board and care for the students contracted (like chattle) to him. And you say you're sure that's not true. So... how does that boil down to "honest and trustworthy" or to the kids in the other guy's care suffering no hardship or, far more, that owing to sacrifices by the pioud one back stateside?

Karen, it just doesn't add up. It's not even a long, rambling story. Just a few short paragraphs which seem to contradict eachother directly.


--- Quote ---And Ginger - I'm certain no one is pissing on my pants leg; but thanks for your concern

--- End quote ---


Ok... look again!
If we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them but to inform their discretion by education

--Thomas Jefferson
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warriorprincess:
Karen,
I am happy that your involvement with ala has been a good experience and that it has worked out for you.  I think a lot of parents wonder, after the fact, how to unravel the mess that wasp has created, how to deal with that deep and profound sense of sadness,  and to move forward then, and effectuate the things they purported to do (unite and heal the family, HELP your child).  
I for one am constantly asking myself (perhaps from shame and guilt), what can i do to make up for the awful mistake i've made by sending him there, how can i better help him, and how can be an advocate for other kids in the same situation?  My thoughts and actions are reflective of that.

from what i have seen, your results, is your son graduated highschool, in thephoto he looks happy, and you yourself also looked happy.  
you must be pleased that you were able to attain a goal (helping your son, helping others in the same situation).  
on religion:  Religion is adaptive, and a personal matter.  I do, as a matter of opinion, prefer the "non-denominational" christian aspect described on their website and the fact that criminals, thugs, etc. do not belong there.
Karen, you helped me when i was dealing with the realization of what had transpired during my son's 3 week stay at wasp.  You consoled and you were not judgmental, your posts to me were thoughtful insight, and your suggestions were practical, You were able to empathize and sympathize, what i am trying to say is I appreciated your help and I NEVER QUESTIONED YOUR MOTIVE, there was no need, your sincerity made that clear.  
:smile:
Gina

Anonymous:
Straightening out wayward teens by shoving God's "love" down their throats 24/7 is as bad as force feeding your kids Ritalin to make them more "efficient" in the home, school and community.  

The sky is not falling, folks.  That is a myth perpetuated by the teen help industry.  If your child needs help, start with a good family therapist.  Cut back your work schedule.  MAKE TIME FOR YOUR KIDS. Listen to them.  They want your attention and appreciate boundaries much more than you think they do.  They want you to care and sending them away is not CARING. It is raising them by checkbook and long distance telephone calls no matter how you try to sugarcoat it.  

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