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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2004, 06:06:00 PM »
Benz get caught molesting another kid?  is anyone surprised?   he learned it all from michael allgood of cascade school who taught it to him and was also shut down due to "declining enrollment"   Benz is about 6'5  and Cedu founder and embezzler mark wasserman of palm springs let him have his way and open cedu clones.  benz fired
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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2005, 10:56:00 AM »
Do Rudy and Jill still run Swift River? Was he ever charged for the molestations? How do we know that's not just a rumor?

So Rudy was at Cedu, HLA, and Swift River? Any place else?
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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2005, 04:50:00 PM »
Academy at Swift River is practically celebrated in this book  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... s&n=507846
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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2005, 06:01:00 PM »
I'm aware of that book, thanks. It'd advertised on their website.  :roll:
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2005, 07:46:00 PM »
yeh-marcus got a pulitzer prize for that book. have any of you read it? I was going to but then I thought it was going to be a skewed view.
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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2005, 10:29:00 PM »
I did.  Sounds to me as if he swallowed it all, hook, line and sinker.  It's not worth its money, maybe the library can get it?

BTW, he is a Pulitzer Prize-winning author but didn't get it for this.
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pg1: "...Other parents sought solace in online chat rooms that seemed to start every month:  DifficultChild.com, Defiant-Teen.com, HelpYourTeens.com.  One of the most popular, StrugglingTeens.com, attracted mothers and fathers from across the country."

pg2: "Jamaica and the Czech Republic have behavioral modification programs for American kids."

pg22: "In 1969, Wasserman bought a ranch in the hills east of Los Angeles...Wasserman called his program CEDU...Asa boss he alternately praised and ridiculed the staff; when enrollment slipped and money was tight, he bellowed, "We need asses in beds!"  Rudy Bentz, who started working at CEDU in the late 1970's, found Wasserman brilliant, exasperating, inspiring and arrogant.
CEDU staff members scattered around the country to found other programs."

pg28: "Rudy Bentz, forty-seven, had started his career twenty-two years before as a drama teacher at CEDU in California, known as the original emotional growth school.  There he met his wife Jill, who taught art. ...then joined Swift River in 1998..".

pg 35: "Base camp...The staff had a zero-tolerance approach....If they didn't wash their bowls spotlessly after a meal, they lost priviledges; they might be put on spice-bans so they had to eat bland food with no salt, peppere, or garlic powder fpr a couple of days.  If a boy and a girl flirted, they were put on bans - no talking to each other, no notes, no clandestine hand signals.  Repeat offenders got extra PT."

pg37: "Between them, Rudy and jill Bentz had nearly forty years of experience, starting with the original one in California."

pg. 104: "The counselors read faxes and letters to make sure parents and kids were being honest with each other."

pg130: "...It was time for Group 23's fist all-day workshop....The kids' childhood nicknames - provided by the parents - had been written on labels on the back of the chairs set in a semicircle facing the fire....Many of the kids at Swift River had grown up in chaotic families.  They were scared of separation and surprises.  They loved rituals,...In a group, rituals build a sense of trust and team spirit.  the workshops were filled with rituals.  Pop songs ...chosen for their lyrics about love, friendship, or sorrow, played on the stereo.  During a break, everybody silently ate a simple dinner of cold cuts.  Then, with darkness settling in and the kids' guard down, the counselors ramped up the emotional intensity with a new activity...As they walked into a schollwide meeting, they were greeted with hugs....Certain workshops touched differentkids to different degrees, but months or years after a workshop, quite a few graduates of therapeutic schools would hear one of the Enigma or Mike and the Mechanics songs on the radio and start sobbing."


pg. 334: "..Elliot Sainer, CEO of the Aspen Education Group, which owns Swift River."
...interviews with John Powers, Candice porter, Marsha Stevens, Gennarose Pope, Julie Haagenson, and John Klem."

pg306: "Now that I've had a chance to reflect, I see that despite the glowing testimonials, despite the late-night workshops and family therapy and hundreds of pages of emotional-growth curriculum, Swift River can only do so much.  Sometines it's simply a safe place for boys and girls to grow up for fourteen or fifteen months."
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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2005, 10:52:00 PM »
pg28: "Rudy Bentz, forty-seven, had started his career twenty-two years before as a drama teacher at CEDU in California, known as the original emotional growth school. There he met his wife Jill, who taught art. ...then joined Swift River in 1998..".

Don't know what year this was written, but Rudy Bentz was not 25 when he started at Cedu (closer to 30)....either lying about his age of his years of experience.
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« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2005, 11:30:00 PM »
His current bio at Rubin claims 24 years exerience.
http://www.rubinedu.com/team/bentz.html
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2005, 12:44:00 AM »
That's fairly accurate.  He started at Cedu Running Springs in 1980.  He was around 30 or 31.  It was his first real "grown up" job.
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« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2005, 01:56:00 PM »
RUDY BENTZ is a sick fuck who should never have any contact with kids.  His wife is a nasty, manipulative bitch/whore as well.

Rudy is now an ED-CON(man) for RUBIN.

Everyone should take a little of their time to write to RUBIN and let them know exactly who they have working for them: an abusive, sexually inappropriate, dry-drunk, vehicular manslaughterer, alleged child molester.
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« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2005, 02:12:00 PM »
Skip the "dry drunk" bit.

People who used to drink a lot and don't drink now, or drink only in moderation, may still be screwed up people, but it has to do with them being screwed up people and not with alcoholism or a lack of it.

"Dry drunk" is one of those AA-type buzzwords that makes the rest of what you say sound less credible.

And from everything *else* I've heard about Jill and Rudy Bentz, they seem to be awful people and everything else you say may well be accurate.

Skip the buzzword just because what you say will sound more credible to more people without it.

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« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2005, 04:44:00 PM »
If the child is a minor under 18 and these things are true (which I believe they are) anyone whether from MA or not can and should report it to the child welfare agency, solitary confinement is for prison and also is considered aversive therapy.  In MA the Child Welfare Agency is called the Department of Social Services they will go in and investigate.  What is wrong with people, they close their eyes?  Even if the parent is fooled by this stuff - anyone can report child abuse and neglect.
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« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2005, 07:45:00 PM »
I'd still like to know why they were fired from Swift River.  Were they also fired from Hidden Lake? And why?  And does the "dry drunk" refernce mean that Rudy doesn't suck down the scotch anymore??
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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2005, 12:31:00 AM »
Just found this but haven't had a chance to listen to it, 18 January 2005. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=4457033
David Marcus again spoke on NPR/Morning Edition on 20 April 2005.

Dave Marcus can be reached at http://www.npr.org/contact/ could open the door to a segment/show about these gulags/teen abu ghraibs?
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