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CEDU- propheets
Anonymous:
hello :wink:
i have been searching all night, but have not come across much information.
i finally emerged from the cedu think tank when i graduated from boulder creek acadamy in '97. (also had the priveledge of a few stays at ascent and ibhi). unfortunately, over six years later, i still have nightmares in which i vividly relive the sensation of being trapped within an "emotional growth" program.
i came online tonight because i am repeatedly bothered by not only the things that i do remember-- but also those that i cannot.
counselors alsways encouraged us to write all about our propheet experiences immediatly following them- and now i wish i had listened.
i came online searching for info on the propheets and came across this forum...and the words of others who have endured cedu's twisted interpretation of therapy.
if anyone knows of websites or other forums...or just wants to discuss or share memories, please email me---- xxLETHExx@aol.com
shanlea:
Who thought that synanon type therapy and the abuse and confrontation of CEDU would be effective? When staff members heard all that, didn't it scare them off? Didn't people know you don't teat kids the same with verbal abuse. The stuff taht kills me is that I never had a rap brrage directed at me that had any basis in truth (no, I'm not in denial. Staff decided what the truth was and went with it) I was just a deeply insecure, profoundly hearing impaired student who was lonely and violated and sleep deprived and low achiever prior to CEDU. I wasn't a bad kid or a liar to my folks or a druggie. I neede help building myself up not tearing myself down, being treated like I'm on quarantine.
For me, the staff comments have been particularly helpful for insight and closures. Are any of you from RS in 1987?
mikehunt:
--- Quote ---On 2004-06-16 23:29:00, shanlea wrote:
"Who thought that synanon type therapy and the abuse and confrontation of CEDU would be effective? When staff members heard all that, didn't it scare them off? Didn't people know you don't teat kids the same with verbal abuse. The stuff taht kills me is that I never had a rap brrage directed at me that had any basis in truth (no, I'm not in denial. Staff decided what the truth was and went with it) I was just a deeply insecure, profoundly hearing impaired student who was lonely and violated and sleep deprived and low achiever prior to CEDU. I wasn't a bad kid or a liar to my folks or a druggie. I neede help building myself up not tearing myself down, being treated like I'm on quarantine.
For me, the staff comments have been particularly helpful for insight and closures. Are any of you from RS in 1987?"
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that's not fair... i think it is effective for some, however, it is not by any means effective for all (or even most...)
the thing is, cedu would be much more effective if you were able to see the situation from a perspective aside from your own (which i was unable to do until recently.) the thing is, they have a lot to teach... they just go about it the wrong way because they're incredibly ignorant and the werkers refuse to think for themselves. even if the skool was built with less-than-noble intentions (this is where i believe the problem lays... therapy is intended to be molded to the individual to help them personally; a standardized approach is not genuine therapy... screaming at a suicidal self-loather about how they're fucking up everything is NOT a good way to help them love themself,) it's still got a lot of important concepts backing it up (e.g.- "little girl": children personify innocence... they are divine beings until they are programmed to be otherwise (remember the chrome ball metaphor?) being able to embrace your "little girl" basically means to be rid of your social programming, which is a fabulous concept in itself. now, why cedu would want you to be rid of your social programming... well, that's a WHOLE other issue; that's where motives step into play, and that's where my problem begins.)
CEDU IS A CULT:
who needs regular piss tests more than a former blowski who has his finger on the button?
--Chuck Beyer
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CEDU IS A CULT:
This is naive. Here's something to keep in mind when deciding their motives. $5900 per month plus profeet, haircuts, store, etc charges X 100 students =over $590,000 per month. That's over
$7,080,000 per year and they use the students to do the dishes, landscape, build rock walls, work the farm, chop wood, Saturday maintenance crews, etc. I mean it's fucking brilliant. By the way how the hell can $5900 dollars a month be justified!! Face it our parents were fucking idiots!!
Karate is a form of martial arts in which people who have had years and years of training can, using only their hands and feet, make some of the worst movies in the history of the world.
-- Dave Barry
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