On 2004-02-28 21:45:00, Scott D wrote:
" What makes you think it even happened? There is NO historical contemporary (this is a contradiction) writing during the time of Christ that indicate he even existed (False) . Even biblical scholars acknowledge the bible was written after his alleged death.////// (true but you have to understand the time back then and how things got passed down) ( The bible is one of the only most historically correct writings of our time)(PROVEN)
There may have been a guy named Jesus, but there are no historical references anywhere to validate that. ///// (Nope how many do you want)
The chances are he was the son of god and died on the cross for your sins? Tell me, why did all those other people ////(Who)//// die on a cross then, it was not a unique punishment back then. /////( That is true but why did water flow when the roman centurion speared his side???) Where is the evidence any of this stuff happened? ///// (dead Sea scrolls and so much more) Scientific evidence indicates the Flood never happened,////// (nope the have actually found part of the arc) the earth is older than the bible indicates, the genesis story is absolutely impossible (light before the stars, firmament between heaven and earth, etc, etc). ///// LONG LONG LONG debate but more and more studies have found that evolution does not add up and many scientific people who are the most difficult to discuss faith with are the ones that are coming forth with this material, one of the leaders is proving that evolution does not add up is an agnostic to boot!)
Cry at the movie all you want...better to cry for the sorry state of mankind still believing this ancient man myth bullshit. ///// (actually I will cry for you. show me or name me 3 agnostics whose life has been changed by their belief and I will show you thousands of people whose life has been changed by believing that Jesus Christ died for their sins) ( All other religions I can show you or take you to the place their profit is buried ,Jesus tomb is empty)"
Scott, this has to be the most tortured paragraph I Have seen in a long time. It is devoid of any common logic, but I will bite.
You say there are writing during christs lifetime that indicate he was alive and are so confident you say "how many do you want? While this would in no way prove any supernatural properties of the man, i challenge you to produce only three, and please don't march out proven frauds, which do exist.
in addition, you site the bible as "historically accurate". My claim is that there are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of historical contradictions in the bible.
Care to continue the debate?
btw, historical contemporary writings is not a contradictory statement. It simply means written at the time of the proposed event in the past. It is a phrase with a very distinct meaning.
Further, "thousands of lives" being changed by believing in christ somehow validates the subject. "thousands of lives" are changed by all religions. Does this make them all correct? adopting any belief system is a life changing event, be it christianity or hare Krisna, Islam or scientology.
Empty tomb? what the hell you talking about? Elaborate please. An empty supposed grave site?
Yawn.....