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Froderik:
Agree. The question: how can that be done sans anonymity?
Matt C. Hoffman:
Yes it is possible without anonymity- if I understand the question-
I wanted the Elan bastards/cabal to know that I had survived what they did to me - or what they had done to me - it was rather intense and outright sick - and there were a few times in my life that being the emotional cripple- seemed like it was going to win and I would just become another faceless statistic of suicide found in the wake of Elan's legacy. A legacy imo consisting of and being a criminal enterprise that fraudulently used sadistic criminal child abuse- and masqueraded it as therapy , while profiting in the tens of millions of dollats -as is/was the case of Joe Ricci's Elan .
No Froderik and Che - I wanted those inhuman, sociopathic, sadistic miscreants that ran Elan for and with Joe Ricci, - Jeffery Gottlieb Sharon Terry ,and Martin Kruglik - to know - and since 2000, they have known.
I gave a letter to Jackman Wilson, in January of 2000, who was an editor at the Register Guard in Eugene OR, and that man sent it, unbeknownst to me, to Mike Sweeney of The Greenwich Times in Greenwich Connecticut. And Mr. Sweeney called to verify that I had indeed written that letter, then I knew- that those Elan bastards needed to know I had survived.
I also spoke out about Elan at the first "treatment abuse " conference hosted by Dr. Arnold Trebach in the summer of 2001.
I had survived and many of my friends/peers hadn't - I had to write under my own name - I have said many times that I stand behind every comment that I have posted about Elan, under my name on Fornits, (and I write under my name everywhere about Elan and I stand by those comments also), and ihe imo criminals that not only ran Elan , though the criminals in Maine state office that protected and aided and abetted a criminal enterprise Elan Corporation/school as it was allowed to exist for close to forty years.
I don't know- it was important to me that they knew, I knew what they have/had done and what I witnessed done to other residents and that I am alive/able to testify about it - and the funny thing for me is that along the past 15 years on this path I have made many friends with Elan survivors from across the close to four decades that Elan fraudulently ran as a imo, a protected criminal enterprise.
On this path and experience I also learned about the death/murder of Phil Williams.
Phil Williams died shortly after a beat down session thru Joe Ricci's notorious "ring". Phil Williams died on 12-27-82. The story about Phil Williams as I understand it would just break your heart and you would think that it would have closed down Elan then. Though because people in Maine State government valued money more than the very children's lives they were entrusted to protect - it was simply covered up. And Elan was allowed to keep abusing the living daylights out of children, private placements as well as the many states whose wards were unfortunately sent to Elan. Tens of millions of dollars Joe Ricci and his Elan made on this criminal enterprise.
I have written on fornits that I don't hold anyone who had to abuse me during my time of my re-education of Elan's already sick abusive education because of an assault incident- responsible for that abuse. I no longer feel guilty for that incident because it was Elan that was sick and its practices were abusing an already chronically abused child. In my heart I have forgiven those that were forced to abuse me during my re-education time , that extra year that I got because of the sickness that was Elan. I certainly didn't feel that after that incident that Elan, Joe Ricci and the untrained buffoons that he had working for him had my best interests at heart because if you know what I went thru -one would be surprised that I didn't succumb to suicide post Elan.
I also have connected with residents that had to work me over because they were directed to do this, by Ricci and his henchmen . And I have told them that all is forgiven and they know and remember what I went thru - and we are friends today. I am grateful to them to be able to tell them that all is forgiven.
One of my primary care givers use to tell me when I was little , that they were going to make sure that I didn't turn out right since as far back as I can remember - those words still burn in my ears - Elan was simply an extension of that sadistic chronic horrid abuse that I had known my entire childhood prior to Elan. It is no wonder that the assault incident happened.
I think it is possible to expose and close without anonymity - but I can understand why someone might want anonymity - God I certainly can understand that notion - and I respect that notion - I wouldn't out a survivor if you paid me.
I have few friends from Elan who have asked me to leave their names out of this Elan saga . and I gave them my word, and to this day my word holds true, and yes I still stay in touch with them.
There is a sense of trust I believe among the cross section of program survivors. And to break that trust would be to throw everything away that many survivors of their prospective programs have worked so very hard to expose this hideous troubled teen industry - using children as a monetized commodity , yet to control/profitt off this monetized commodity thru criminal child abuse masquerading as therapy is insane criminality at the very highest level of criminality/sickness - and this has to end -
I still seek justice for Phil Williams and the many Elan survivors that didn't make it, and those that suffer to this day from the fraudulent protected practices of Elan.
I have been posting on fornits about Elan since 2001, under my name.
One way or another this story has got to end.....
Peace
Matt
Che Gookin:
To be fair, not everyone has been out of program as long as you have Matt. Anonymity gives those who are still dependent on their sociopath narcissistic parents a means of talking up without getting sent back or cut off among other things.
Matt C. Hoffman:
Very True Che – and next year it will be forty years – It is so hard to believe just how fresh it seems and vivid it still is to me. The names the faces ,the violent beat downs - the electric saucings- the absolutely violent and sadistic cowboy kick asses – the sheer lunacy of the primal scream groups/encounter groups, general meetings, the people who lived in the corner and on and on - memories of Joe Ricci's Elan – Very true Che " the program" as perceived/created thru Elan creator's eye's, a misogynistic, violent, common street thug who only learned of "the program" as he tried to beat a mail truck burglary/ robbery charge by "claiming that he was an addict " - He learned of the scam , then created his own scam- thru quite ironically a scam – he scammed the judge at his mail truck burglary/robbery trial.
I know there were worse places Che- like the boys home - in Mariana, Florida which has its own cemetery for the victims of that place. The White house boys saga – Yes and I sing for justice for Phil Williams, and there are how many boys buried in that cemetery?
Though Che -for the life of me Elan is always so very fresh and in vivid detail – after all I am one of the ones that snapped because of the "program" - I got the special attention for that assault, being the one made to feel the hatred to know the hate - in a house of 25 people, bthe prejudice continued thru all the houses until I left.
It is not meant to be funny when I describe Elan as a Synanon on steroids. It was Elan – it was criminal.
It is good to have those years behind me- absolutely - I look at the first 17 and 1/2 years of my life as literally being in the "program" due to the lunacy in my childhood – so I start all over at 17 1/2 to learn how to be the human being that I wanted to be and knew existed deep inside my very being – despite what Ricci and his henchmen wanted me to believe – or tried to convince me as to what I was -which was just a sick, sick person regardless of having gone thru their fraudulent "program twice" because I snapped due to their lunacy – naw man – It took until I was around 25 to get a handle and a focus- that "guitfiddle thing -and most certainly the good people I found on my path that assisted me -and sure I had to get competent assistance -
These years post Elan have allowed me to grow and study just what the hell had happened to me during the first 17 and half years of my life – To understand just exactly just what the heck Elan truly was.
And then it came time when if I didn't do the right thing and speak out, as timidly as I did at first, that it was surely going to kill me- 2000-I almost lost everything that I valued – so I had to speak out about a place that no one really knew about until 2000- and I have grown more focused and determined in my quest for justice.
Che I don't care why anyone uses their anonymity - to speak out against their "perspective program" I guess it is really an age thing and didn't think that "kids " would want to attack their parents incognito instead of their "program" because I know/ understand and see how the "program" twists and deceitfully defrauds parent of their monies at all cost, by playing off their innate parental fears.
My father had to lie to get me into Elan - and Elan knew that something was very wrong because Che- I was not 250 pounds and I was not 6' 5" tall as many witnesses said my father told Ricci – prior to being retrieved to be placed in that hell -hole. Sure I understand dad was scared of me because if you beat an animal continually eventually it will turn and bite you as it trys to get away – and that is how I was treated though I was only mabey 5' 4”and weighed 125 at the most back then. Dad swung at me to hurt and I ducked and proceeded to pick him up and threw him across a couch – and I told him in no uncertain terms that he could no longer beat me- in any fashion again. And he wanted the last laugh so he put me in Elan – though he had to lie to do it.
Ricci knew something was very wrong - when he stood me up in a house meeting during my first full day- he turned to his boys- Gottlieb and Kruglik and asked them if this was the right guy. And they both sheepishly laughed and said yeah that's him.
So instead of doing the right thing, and taking my documented childhood abuse seriously and what I related had been happening to me as far back as I can remember - Joe ricci took the insurance money instead - and then when I snapped 10 months later they blamed me for being the victim of my fathers sadism- that there were other children who had been abused and who the hell did I think I was – and not the fact/truth that it was their program that was the sick problem. They played my poor mother – because by that time dad was free and clear once he got me in Elan and boy my poor mother - I just told her about the exact nature of just what it was to be in Elan about four years ago. She said it gave her nightmares. Do I hold my mother in a bad light because of Elan – absolutely not.
I can understand that if a parent can't accept their child as who they are because the parent thinks that the child's very core being reflects badly upon them and then they put them in a program( because the program says they can do magic) to change that very being of the child to where the parent thinks their child no longer reflects badly upon them, then I can certainly understand using anonymity for the very reason you stated – And quite frankly I don't have an issue with anonymity -
I do however have a problem when it is the program trolls/ former employees that used their many known puppets to try to silence the out spoken survivors of their perspective program as you are well aware of this happening on Fornits – and I don't see that occurring at all now, like it did rampantly on Fornits about 5 years ago-when it was out of control.
And Che as a parent my children know they are loved and what is so cool is that they love me – I guess I am lucky that I didn't succumb to the lunacy that the "program" tried to instill in me- that suicide was really an option because I was so sick. I am sure you remember me being reminded of this by the former employees of Elan. Fun times indeed.
I am not trying to dominate the rap jack - I am just trying to seek justice the best and only way I know for the many that lay dead in the wake of Elan's legacy and the many former residents of Elan caused to have more problems than they had upon arriving at that horror show, if I can further expose thru my ways and means this insidious industry by talking and writing about Elan - then I guess that is just a little extras bonus for all concerned.
peace
Matt
Che Gookin:
What of the Elan Elite Crazy Crewe that was running wild on the forums several years ago? Whatever happened to those folks?
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