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Vice article on The Troubled Teen Industry
psy:
--- Quote from: "Che Gookin" ---Unless of course you are trying to illustrate the absurd lengths programs go to make their already absurd case. If that's the case then sorry None-ya, I agree with Psy.
Personally though, I'm wondering if you've been taking a bit of your vino therapy too seriously or some such thing.
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It's an analogy from the other thread I carried over. As to the pseudo-interrogation related to whether I trust Whooter -- the posts just went on for too long and had nothing to do with the thread and so I moved them. No. I don't trust him, and parents should trust nobody.
psy:
--- Quote from: "Pile of Dead Kids" ---If "long-term, sustainable change" doesn't survive contact with the real world, it was neither long-term nor sustainable to begin with.
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Any change that relies on thought reform cannot survive outside the milieu of the program -- at least without a support structure of some kind to provide the converts with somewhere they can worship.
Che Gookin:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Che Gookin" ---Errr... I hate to break it to you, Psy has never trusted the whooter.. ever.
I remember when a certain someone changed the whooter's user title to Proud Member of Nambla (national associatio of man boy love or something like that). Psy laughed his butt off as much as the rest of us.
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A guy from China who was partying too much named TSW if I remember correctly. I thought it was funny too until I needed to explain to my wife why all of a sudden I started receiving NAMBLA membership pamplets in the mail and Thailand getaway vacation packages. You think having your identity stolen is hard to clean up.
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So you go by the handle of Whooter in real life also?
[Emoticon redacted by Psy]
I'm surprised the industry hasn't tried to buy and pay for more studies given the Miller hearing in which MIller verbally slapped around the NATSAP flunkie Jan Moss on CSPAN. She just sort of sat there and looked silly while not really being able to respond.
I recall them having that horridly flawed Beherens study that was funded by Aspen, no compromised ethics there of course.. pbbbtt.. lol.
lifeboat:
--- Quote from: "Che Gookin" ---Errr... I hate to break it to you, Psy has never trusted the whooter.. ever.
I remember when a certain someone changed the whooter's user title to Proud Member of Nambla (national associatio of man boy love or something like that). Psy laughed his butt off as much as the rest of us.
Psy likes these sort of long winded discussions.
I personally find them annoying.
As for the article.
I wonder, where have I heard of this Monarch school before? Isn't it a CEDU clone? I seem to remember reading about it in the context of it being a 2nd Generation of CEDU. Meaning some of the founders and employees came directly from the IDAHO CEDU crime family.
And I see to have made a mistake when I posted about ASR, it was a young man mentioned in the article, not young woman who went to ASR.
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http://jpstillwater.blogspot.com/2005/0 ... -does.html
"The founder of Monarch, Patrick McKenna, is a graduate of Rocky Mountain Academy, which is a CEDU program; Monarch's Admissions Director, Ranel Hanson, worked for Rocky Mountain Academy for six years and then joined SUWS. (Info pertaining to CEDU & SUWS are at the very end.)"
Che Gookin:
I need to update my ceduwatch thread.
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