Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
NATION OF BRATS
Anonymous:
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"Stephan Covey origanially wrote his book for Mormans with jargon - then decided he could influence the world to their ideas it he wrote it in a more wordly acceptable way.
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Now there is one smart Anon!!
::bigsmilebounce:: :nworthy:
Anonymous:
What positive results? Show me an independent survey/study. I've already looked. It does not exist. Just hundreds of parent testimonials which are not worth the paper they are written on. Come on now, you are going to have to use better tricks than this if you want to sell the public this very expensive (and some would say toxic) brand of snake-oil.
Anonymous:
First of all, define BREAKDOWN, Anon. Then I will respond to your question about solutions.
spots:
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On 2004-02-08 14:21:00, Anonymous wrote:
"kudo's to the parents that see that they were part of the problem and are now doing something about it in a program for the family. If it didn't begin back in infancy, the whole family needs help to learn a successful way to undo the already done.
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Family? Family? I'm pretty sick of hearing about how the Program works for the whole family. Who do you think is family? Is it the single parent, maybe a new step-parent, perhaps a sibling or two still living at home, and the dog? Family is parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles, cousins, siblings grown up. If the Program were for the whole family, how come no kid gets to write or receive mail freely with family? [And don't tell me mail is uncensored, because I know without a doubt that it is.] How come family doesn't get to sit down and talk with the kid until the kid has performed/buckled under to a thousand inane rules like silence and direction of eye gaze? How come the first face-to-face, where the family can finally work together after well over six months or more, requires the family (not siblings, et al) to gather at the facility site, maybe thousands of miles away, not to talk freely, but to participate in yet another canned seminar called PC1? How come, if the family is "working together", does WWASPS publish a Siblings Manual (http://www2.netdoor.com/~ssl/~ssl/Sibling%20Manual.htm) to help kids understand why their former housemate is shipped off, held incommunicado by strangers, the object of Mom's frequent trips out-of-town to seminars, the brother or sister to whom the remaining family at home points as The Problem that is wrecking our lives?
Family could be broadened to include community, church, government, but for now, don't tell me that the Program works with the whole family. The Program works to divide the family, because that is the only way they can remove all support and speed up the indoctrination process of both children and parents. The Program can't fool all of the people, but they sure as hell can fool some of the people...and the important ones to the Program are the fools who pay a lot of money on the promise that "the familiy's" failure to parent can be set to rights by handing over their child and attending group rah-rah parties.
Don't think for a minute that this is just about your insular little family, Parent. You'll be amazed when your kid gets home, or spends a few years realizing what you have done to him. You'll be a Old Geezer, working with your therapist, trying to get help because your child is distant, aloof, or totally absent, your other children distrust you, your neighbors think you're weird, and the ladies in the bridge club no longer talk to you after you spouted about your "solution" to your teen's difficult adolescent. Christmas alone, no birthday cards, grandchildren who don't recognize you... Ask the Program how they intend to work on that family problem together.
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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2004-02-08 14:21:00, Anonymous wrote:
"kudo's to the parents that see that they were part of the problem and are now doing something about it in a program for the family. If it didn't begin back in infancy, the whole family needs help to learn a successful way to undo the already done. These parents in the program are learning what it takes, big time. Reading a book is good, but until you can really apply it, it's just knowledge.
I like his suggestions, it's the exact same thing many program parents are doing differently now. Can you just read this article and all of a sudden change your pattern? A lifelong pattern needs practice to change. Fantastic for the parents that can read a book and apply it without help in staying the course.
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Institutionalizing a child is no way to rebuild family attachments.
Instead, it's a symptom of the problem, "I want it fixed, I want it fixed now, I want it fixed in the least inconvenient (for me) way, and Money's No Object!"
Family therapy can help if the parents want to change, but involuntarily institutionalizing a child for things that wouldn't justify involuntary commitment of an adult is a *FAILURE* of attachment, and yet another attempt to substitute MONEY for personal engagement in an attached, intimate relationship.
These parents are throwing away their children, and they're using money to make it legal and to add a figleaf of social acceptability and provide themselves a rationalization that lets them feel like they're not being as incredibly irresponsible as they in fact ARE.
And, of course, things like "seminars" let them get away with being Drama Queens and focus on how *awful* it is for them that their child is not perfect. And since everybody else at the seminar has *also* gotten rid of an inconvenient child by institutionalizing it, they can commiserate and tell each other that they're all doing the right thing.
Kinda like NAMBLA, eh?
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