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Anonymous:
On this we can agree; as a favorite family counselor of mine has said; Parenting isn't for Cowards.

Anonymous:
I am not unsympethetic for any parent dealing with one of these children.  I can't say that I would have been all that successful if I had one.  I have two wonderful children in their early twenties who are married with their own homes and positive plans for their future.  (I did something right.)  However, I know of families torn apart because of children who are "wired differently".  If you aren't financially able to get support, you are on your own.  Additionally, parents are generally limited in their parenting skills because of their own upbringing.  It's really an epidemic.

However, it will not service any of us to live in denial.  It's not about fault; it's about solutions.   We must take responsibility for our own children.  It's okay to say you need help, but I think the cowards are the parents who send their children away in order to avoid taking the real responsibility.  These schools feed off parents who want to feel good about themselves at the expense of their own children.  The premise behind these behavior programs is that the child is broken.  I find it ironic that parents with the most to offer their children in the way of education, culture, and experience are being taken by these programs that in turn inflict deep, emotional injury to their children.  

I know there are a lot of parents who are in crisis.  The pain will get to the point that you will send  your child away.  Don't forget, you need as much help as your child.

Anonymous:
fuck you previous anon - you don't know shit.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2004-01-29 15:36:00, Anonymous wrote:

"

Always, no sometimes, I think it?s me, but you know I know when it?s a dream.

I think I know I mean a ?yes? but it?s all wrong,

that is I think I disagree.





There is such a thing as a strong willed child - who is just 'that way'.

They are so from the day their born, and they remain so all threwout life.

They are natural born leaders and the folks who get the impossible accomplished. But they also drive perfectly good parents up a wall.

Bundle this strong will with complicating factors such as a mental illness or proclivity for addiction; and you have every parent?s nightmare; and its no ones fault.

"

--- End quote ---


Oh, please!  I *am* a natural leader with a major mental illness (treated, thank you).  Yeah, the mental illness was challenging to my parents, but that didn't put me in a position of controlling them.

I repeat, you don't get a *controlling* child unless one of the parents or guardians is either a control freak *or* a doormat.

Controlling behavior is neither linked to leadership/alpha status, nor to mental illness.

If anything, control freaks, and doormats, are more likely to be beta types---alphas (leaders) tend to have more self-confidence than that.

And being a control freak is not an identifying symptom of *any* of the major mental illnesses.

Therion:

--- Quote ---On 2004-01-27 08:33:00, Anonymous wrote:

"There is a point where children are children and must be made to do the right thing.  If a child rebels, then the parents should give it back, ten-fold, as the bible says."

--- End quote ---



 Fuck the bible... :wave:

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