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Antigen:
Finally!,
The fates have smiled, well... maybe snickered a little, upon me. For the first time in over a month I have the time, info and reasoned advice from my lawyer so that I can say something about the damned lawsuit. Well, no, actually, I probably could, but I don't have that much time today. I can only give you some of the correspondence.

Here is a letter from WWASP attys.

And, finally, Anonymity Anonymous

[ This Message was edited by: Antigen on 2004-02-11 05:58 ]

Anonymous:
Ginger is in interesting company being added to Phil Elberg's client list.  Let's take a walk down the Memory Lane of some of Mr. Elberg's very upstanding list of clients.

Let us start with a man indicted for assault with intent to commit sodomy (N.J.S.A. 2A:90-2), sodomy (N.J.S.A. 2A:143-1) and impairing the morals of a child (N.J.S.A. 2A:96-3). Ginger's lawyer did a fine job representing his Defendant client on this one.  Check it out State v. Ciuffini 164 NJ Super 145.

Next interesting case involves a Defendant client of "Phil's" who was convicted of distribution of a controlled dangerous substance (N.J.S.A. 24:21-19(a)) and conspiracy to distribute a controlled dangerous substance (N.J.S.A. 24:21-24). This didn't work out so well for his client, but "Phil" definitely did his best to get his fine client off on this. State v. Hamlet 155 NJ Super 512.

Oh, there's more... try in re: The Estate of Erwin Wurtzel, where "Phil" tried to get an increased attorney's fee in excess of the contingent fee provided for in their retainer agreement and allowed by R. 1:21-7(c) pursuant to the provisions of R. 1:21-7(f).

I'm not sure this would have been my choice?

Anonymous:
Are you saying no attorney should defend criminals?  Or that no attorney should ever lose?  Or that fees should never be renegotiated in legal cases in accordance with the law?

By those criteria, Abraham Lincoln would be considered an unethical lawyer.  Give me a break!

Kiwi:
http://http://election.dos.state.fl.us/laws/02laws/ch_2002-077.pdf

In case anyone is wondering, Section 57.105 says:

(1) Upon the court?s initiative or motion of any party, the court shall award a reasonable attorney?s fee to be paid to the prevailing party in equal amounts by the losing party and the losing party?s attorney on any claim or defense at any time during a civil proceeding or action in which the court finds that the losing party or the losing party?s attorney knew or should have known that a claim or defense when initially presented to the court or at any time before trial:

(a) Was not supported by the material facts necessary to establish the claim or defense; or

(b) Would not be supported by the application of then-existing law to those material facts.

It then rambles on a bit but this is the key part.  Bottom line: PURE's lawyers stand to lose money as well!  That should give them something to think about.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2004-02-11 13:01:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Ginger is in interesting company being added to Phil Elberg's client list.  Let's take a walk down the Memory Lane of some of Mr. Elberg's very upstanding list of clients.



Let us start with a man indicted for assault with intent to commit sodomy (N.J.S.A. 2A:90-2), sodomy (N.J.S.A. 2A:143-1) and impairing the morals of a child (N.J.S.A. 2A:96-3). Ginger's lawyer did a fine job representing his Defendant client on this one.  Check it out State v. Ciuffini 164 NJ Super 145.



Next interesting case involves a Defendant client of "Phil's" who was convicted of distribution of a controlled dangerous substance (N.J.S.A. 24:21-19(a)) and conspiracy to distribute a controlled dangerous substance (N.J.S.A. 24:21-24). This didn't work out so well for his client, but "Phil" definitely did his best to get his fine client off on this. State v. Hamlet 155 NJ Super 512.



Oh, there's more... try in re: The Estate of Erwin Wurtzel, where "Phil" tried to get an increased attorney's fee in excess of the contingent fee provided for in their retainer agreement and allowed by R. 1:21-7(c) pursuant to the provisions of R. 1:21-7(f).



I'm not sure this would have been my choice?



                                   

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Sure, you're right....let's throw out the entire justice system.  FUCK rights, FUCK innocent until proven guilty...we should have NO defense attorneys....how dare they!! :roll:  :roll:

Why don't you check out some of Phil's OTHER clients....Lulu Corter?!?!?!  http://www.thestraights.com/articles/lulu.htm
http://lawlibrary.rutgers.edu/courts/ap ... 9.opn.html
Phil got good ole Miller to SETTLE for $11.5 MILLION and 4.5 MILLION respectively...SETTLE

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