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Synanon and the Step program
Tony Stark:
Yeah, it was seven steps in the seed and also in the life program. I was only in straight long enough to know I couldn't stick around. My brother spent two years on his program there though. I can't even get him to speak about it.I heard about the seven steppers though, trough what I've read and overheard by my parents.
Speak gently! 't is a little thing Dropp'd in the heart's deep well; The good, the joy, that it may bring Eternity shall tell.
-- G. W. Langford: Speak gently.
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GregFL:
Yes Kathy, remembering this was the origin of the entire mess, we had
the seven steps
the three signs
the serenity prayer
The rules (honesty is the first and most important rule)
and incessent raps about this bullshit all day long.
Never let your sense of
morals get in the way of
doing what's right
--Isaac Asimov
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[ This Message was edited by: GregFL on 2003-12-24 13:19 ]
Anonymous:
It's also important to remember that Synanon was started by an AA member, Chuck Dederich, who believed that if you forced the steps on people, they could be used for addicts as well as alcoholics. Synanon didn't officially practice the steps but Dederich readily admitted the influence.
He thought AA was wimpy for being voluntary, basically-- and believed that we would have utopia if people just applied total honesty throughout life.
What he didn't get is that people have defenses and there are social niceties for very good reasons.
Froderik:
Yes, like the right to privacy, for starters...
Tony Stark:
All the AA people believe they will never heal from their alcoholism also."Keep coming back"is said while they squeeze hands after they all recite the lord's prayer. Left only to believe they will never get along without their meetings. Some of these meetings are held in "churches" that claim AA is "the grapevine" of the body of Christ. Someplace to go and confess their sins to one another. Usually these churches have ties to other religious institution's that are sponsored by the government in rehab centers and mental health programs.
Marijuana clearly has medicinal value.
Thousands of seriously ill Americans have
been able to determine that for themselves,
albeit illegally. Like my own family, these
individuals did not wish to break the law but
they had no choice.
--Lyn Nofziger, former deputy chairman of the Republican National Committee
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"Don't know where I've been,all I know is it wasn't any easier there than it is now" WWII VET
John Butler
It is also to my understanding from webpages that all this AA movement came after the great depression from the century earlier. People saw their lives meaningless without their wealth. Needed some form of reason to exist or belong to groups and churches that would give them something that their wealth couldn't buy. Its all online about synanon. I used search engines to get links from freemasonary to even scientology. :cry2:
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