Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Lillian Speerbrecker's New Accreditation Agency
Xerix:
--- Quote from: "FemanonFatal2.0" ---I don't care either way honestly, I just think it's fucked up for you to go after an whole organization after a conversation that you had with one person.
You and Lillian and any anon that support her can go ride into the sunset for all I care.
You just haven't been around long enough to know how these things go wrong, and how those programs will use her "reports" as advertisement. Her "good intentions" will only be used by the programs to to convince parents that their schools aren't abusive when they clearly are if they aren't willing to do away with restraints and seclusion.
It's okay tho, you obviously have a lot to learn about the troubled teen industry so I wont hold your ignorance against you.
You want to end this yet or what?... Because I'm leaving it at what needed to be said was said, and it's over with. So unless you want me to go into more details about why Lillian's business will fail, I suggest you leave it at that.
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THEN LET IT FAIL! Don't criticize and knock people for trying to do something, regardless how impossible it seems. Let her fail as you seem so convinced she will and laugh about it later. Let her see the outcome to her own endeavors without posting shit about her, her family, and her business. In the end if it does fail, then so be it.
This whole thing started because I saw the post on WWASP Survivors and responded to the ORIGINAL poster. I did not respond to the Admin or "Chelsea" and I wasn't speaking for the entire organization as a whole, I was speaking directly to the original poster. The Admin got involved herself, which as a "high up" person of Survivors, brought the whole organization into it because of her forced involvement. My original response was to this "Bill" person or whoever "Bingo" was who first placed the information on their forum.
I have not attacked Fornits or anyone involved with Fornits nor have I "trolled" the forums. I spoke neutrally and warned the organization of the false truths and partial information that said person was spreading and when it was clear that someone directly involved in the situation responded to me on this very forum, of course I am going to defend myself and my position just as they have.
Also what about jails? What about youth detention centers? Is it abusive for them to restrain or confine individuals due to their behavior in THOSE establishments? In that case you should take that up with the Department of Justice.
These "programs" you refer to are an alternative for parents to send their kids to in place of jail if they are uncontrollable. So why wouldn't someone want these programs to be investigated and reported on? Being in the mix of all of this I would think you'd realize that, but apparently not. Would you rather the parents send their kids to jail or youth detention centers or the kids end up in jail anyway because of the way they are or act or do things? I doubt you'd want that. I would think you'd WANT someone to be investigating and reporting on shit so the parents can make a better educated decision of where to send their kids. These reports Lillian plans on doing includes good and bad things, not all good like you're making it seem.
FemanonFatal2.0:
Look I did not say anything about you "attacking" fornits, I am pointing out how you are reading into things, and rehashing apparently "false information" you heard in a deleted thread, and now posting everything on a public forum where regardless if you are defending her or not, will still be available for people to see and come to their own conclusions about.
Try, try reeeeeeeally hard not to post anymore information about Lillian and you might be surprised how easily this will end.
Keep arguing your moot points and there will be yet another thread for Lillian to rage about.... Don't know how many times I have to repeat myself for you to get it.
MY personal opinion that this "accreditation agency" could do more harm than good. That is an opinion I have every right to hold and to express. Now if you want to hold yours you are free to do so but don't start threatening people for disagreeing with you. What a pussy move on your part... Simply cannot state your opinion intelligently without threatening to hack someone and release their personal information.
YOU MAD BRO?
If all you want is for people to stop talking about Lillian, you are doing it wrong. The more you talk about Lillian the more people will talk about Lillian... LOL can't believe you dont get that by now, YOU are digging HER grave with YOUR arguments.
Most people here on fornits are smart enough to make up their own minds, they dont need your input. You are only doing Lillian a disservice here by repeating her arguments for her... Most of us don't buy it and we don't buy it because we've seen it all before.
She isn't doing anything any different than any Edcon, or any of the various trade organizations that support this industry is doing. Reporting the "bad and the good" was exactly the platform Sue Scheff ran on when she opposed WWASP and referred to the "good" programs that she toured and reported on. Same shit, different Sue.
You could probably learn something if you stuck around so I implore you to go "dig" through these forums and find the patterns yourself. I don't care to waste my time trying to convince you as you seem hellbent on your being nieve and assuming everything Lillian told you is true, or somehow will be true... someday.
You want to prove that you aren't a stalker?... Stop getting so involved with something that doesn't concern you. Stop threatening to release people's information and "wage war" against someone who likely doesn't give two shits about this person you are defending nor your opinion on the subject.
Give it up, no one cares.
LulzSecuritoh:
--- Quote from: "FemanonFatal2.0" ---Look I did not say anything about you "attacking" fornits, I am pointing out how you are reading into things, and rehashing apparently "false information" you heard in a deleted thread, and now posting everything on a public forum where regardless if you are defending her or not, will still be available for people to see and come to their own conclusions about.
Try, try reeeeeeeally hard not to post anymore information about Lillian and you might be surprised how easily this will end.
Keep arguing your moot points and there will be yet another thread for Lillian to rage about.... Don't know how many times I have to repeat myself for you to get it.
MY personal opinion that this "accreditation agency" could do more harm than good. That is an opinion I have every right to hold and to express. Now if you want to hold yours you are free to do so but don't start threatening people for disagreeing with you. What a pussy move on your part... Simply cannot state your opinion intelligently without threatening to hack someone and release their personal information.
YOU MAD BRO?
If all you want is for people to stop talking about Lillian, you are doing it wrong. The more you talk about Lillian the more people will talk about Lillian... LOL can't believe you dont get that by now, YOU are digging HER grave with YOUR arguments.
Most people here on fornits are smart enough to make up their own minds, they dont need your input. You are only doing Lillian a disservice here by repeating her arguments for her... Most of us don't buy it and we don't buy it because we've seen it all before.
She isn't doing anything any different than any Edcon, or any of the various trade organizations that support this industry is doing. Reporting the "bad and the good" was exactly the platform Sue Scheff ran on when she opposed WWASP and referred to the "good" programs that she toured and reported on. Same shit, different Sue.
You could probably learn something if you stuck around so I implore you to go "dig" through these forums and find the patterns yourself. I don't care to waste my time trying to convince you as you seem hellbent on your being nieve and assuming everything Lillian told you is true, or somehow will be true... someday.
You want to prove that you aren't a stalker?... Stop getting so involved with something that doesn't concern you. Stop threatening to release people's information and "wage war" against someone who likely doesn't give two shits about this person you are defending nor your opinion on the subject.
Give it up, no one cares.
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