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To anyone who's really twisted up over recent flame war

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DannyB II:

--- Quote from: "none-ya" ---Who here is defending elan,after witnessing the emotional wreckage it has left on these folks? I don't think this war here is "pro program" vs."anti program". The only "pro programmers" were Whooter and a couple of knuckle heads from the Cleveland seed,who seem to be long gone from here. No,this is personal. This is Wayne vs. Danny. And if you've been following this, then you know logic and reasoning aren't going to work. A moderator could squash the whole thing but nobody seems to want to. So let the fur fly. (not you Ursus)
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That is a fact!

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---
--- Quote from: "Antigen" ---No, not you. I think you're mostly just reacting. I was talking mostly about the steady presence of people who blow a gasket over criticism of the program. Even if, logically, they agree with our take on it overall. there's another thread in the straight forum, I think, about the program causing arrogance.

Danny, calm down now. Most people won't understand, but you're one of us. I just wish you'd break free of the cult mindset.
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Awe...throwing your prodigy a bone. That ought to make him feel like he is a part of again. Ginger, I just remind you of your older bro....I am probably old enough to be your older bro.
I have always been a survivor, my hell started in 1967 and ended in 1978. I have never been confused about this.
I guess you weren't here when I copped to some guilt a few months back. I told everyone I was guilty of fucking with y'all sort of being vindictive. I purposely teamed up with Whooter and Max's to flaunt my anger.
Being a part of a cult? Do you really believe darling that any cult would want me running around inside their halls.   :rofl:

Oh and as far as my presence on Orange, Stinkin Thinking or whatever else Wayne and his buddies get my username involved in. You will have to ask them.
My AA days have been over for years and although I believe AA helps at first, I also believe one should move on after the lesson is learned. I don't believe AA is a lifetime deal.
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You really want the job that bad?

He's going to use you and toss you aside when he gets the go-ahead ya know. He's a programmie, he has no loyalty

Anne Bonney:

--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---
My AA days have been over for years and although I believe AA helps at first, I also believe one should move on after the lesson is learned. I don't believe AA is a lifetime deal.
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Well that's a change. Orange's dissection of AA must have gotten to you.  :rocker:  :rofl:

Antigen:

--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---
--- Quote from: "none-ya" ---Who here is defending elan,after witnessing the emotional wreckage it has left on these folks? I don't think this war here is "pro program" vs."anti program". The only "pro programmers" were Whooter and a couple of knuckle heads from the Cleveland seed,who seem to be long gone from here. No,this is personal. This is Wayne vs. Danny. And if you've been following this, then you know logic and reasoning aren't going to work. A moderator could squash the whole thing but nobody seems to want to. So let the fur fly. (not you Ursus)
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That is a fact!
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I'm not saying anyone here is still actually involved in any cultic group. It's more like the way people exposed to domestic violence so often wind up in one abusive relationship after another. Yes, this is Wayne v Danny. & it reads a lot like accounts i've seen of a door knocking. @ least that's my take on it.

But who am I to decide for any of you folks what you may or may not say? Es no mi jjob, meign!

Yes, Danny, you do remind me of my older brother, but only when you get into full on director mode. Otherwise, you're usually far more civil to me than he's been since I did the unthinkable & split the program almost 30 years ago.

pimps and whores:

--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---
--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---
My AA days have been over for years and although I believe AA helps at first, I also believe one should move on after the lesson is learned. I don't believe AA is a lifetime deal.
--- End quote ---


Well that's a change. Orange's dissection of AA must have gotten to you.  :rocker:  :rofl:
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Welcome back Anne Bonney!

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