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Media is slowly picking up on the issue of gay homelessness.
« on: February 18, 2012, 12:25:56 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz1Msg551X0

The problem is getting worse (some cities have 20-40% of the homeless child population comprised of GLBT children) in the US.  But the media is picking up on it.  Let's see where this goes.
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Re: Media is slowly picking up on the issue of gay homelessn
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2012, 01:13:41 PM »
What the hell is a transexual child?
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Re: Media is slowly picking up on the issue of gay homelessn
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2012, 01:39:35 PM »
There are transexual children out there.  Some have started the process as early as 4 years old.
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Re: Media is slowly picking up on the issue of gay homelessn
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2012, 01:54:10 PM »
No doctor in the world would perform gender reorientation on a little kid. besides gender reorientation starts around 1,000,000 dollars. There's something fundamentally wrong with just the idea of that.
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Re: Media is slowly picking up on the issue of gay homelessn
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2012, 02:03:04 PM »
The typical age the process starts is above 18, but there are a few children who have that opportunity.  There is also the children who don't begin the process but already identify as the opposite gender.

You also have to remember that transexual operations can happen - or used to happen - when the obstetrician screws on on the circumcision or that the child is found to have both genitalia.  However, procedures with consent happen as early as four or six and the end results are much better than if they started later.  That is, they look more like the gender they transisted to due to not having gone through puberty.
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on gender reassignment, and some history thereof
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2012, 03:46:44 PM »
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No doctor in the world would perform gender reorientation on a little kid. besides gender reorientation starts around 1,000,000 dollars. There's something fundamentally wrong with just the idea of that.
Actually, gender reassignment of babies and young children used to occur, and perhaps still does occur, far more frequently than you might think. In cases of intersex patients with "ambiguous genitalia," the child was sometimes surgically "adjusted," and sometimes even reassigned to be (what the obstetrician or surgeon considered to be) the "more appropriate" gender. See also: history of intersex surgury (Wikipedia).

In the 1960s, John Money, a pediatric psychologist in the "Psychohormonal Research Unit" at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, was making a name for himself claiming that gender identity was primarily developed as a result of social learning in the child's environment, and that said gender identity could also be changed.

Dr. Money was perhaps ultimately most famous, or infamous, for the horribly tragic case of Bruce Reimer, reassigned to be Brenda Reimer by Dr. Money, due to a circumcision that had ended up being an essentially complete cauterization of the organ in question.

The Reimer case was of especial interest to Dr. Money, no doubt, due to the fact that Bruce had a twin brother. From a Wikipedia article on the case:

    For several years, Money reported on Reimer's progress as the "John/Joan case", describing apparently successful female gender development, and using this case to support the feasibility of sex reassignment and surgical reconstruction even in non-intersex cases. Money wrote: "The child's behavior is so clearly that of an active little girl and so different from the boyish ways of her twin brother."
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"Brenda" Reimer, however, never fully adjusted nor identified with her gender assignment, a fact which John Money concealed from the scientific and medical communities and perhaps even from himself. This, despite the fact that (or perhaps even because of the fact that) ... the alleged success of his theories was having some impact on actual medical practice.

Eventually, this lack of adjustment resulted in such a degree of suicidal depression during the teenage years that young Brenda was finally informed of the actual circumstances of her anatomy by her parents. Brenda subsequently opted to become David Reimer, and attempted to both surgically and hormonally undo and reverse the years of "progress" in the other direction.

Needless to say, when someone has been subjected to as much medical and psyche intervention, co-option, and coercion as this poor guy was, this story did not end well.
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Re: Media is slowly picking up on the issue of gay homelessn
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2012, 07:33:51 PM »
Those are extreme cases. I know about the twins and the botched circumcision. But were talking about the mutilation of genetalia on kids who arent even old enough to have sex yet. For recreational purposes? Think about it your 14 years old male,and you're not legally allowed anywhere near a vagina, But a doctor will make you your very own? I'm sorry I'm as liberal as the next guy but that just don't sound right to me.
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Re: Media is slowly picking up on the issue of gay homelessn
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2012, 08:18:02 PM »
You would get more utility using a doubling strap-on.
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Re: Media is slowly picking up on the issue of gay homelessn
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2012, 09:01:16 PM »
X, who are you responding to? Me or the troll?
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Re: Media is slowly picking up on the issue of gay homelessn
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2012, 09:11:43 PM »
The troll.  (I know I was talking to the troll.)
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Re: Media is slowly picking up on the issue of gay homelessn
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2012, 03:23:47 PM »
Why do ligitimate post go unnoticed and unresponded to, while flame wars and bullshit garner all the attention here?
 Nobody here but trolls talking to each other.
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Re: Media is slowly picking up on the issue of gay homelessn
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2012, 03:25:37 PM »
Because your post was a fairly stated opinion and did not warrant a response?
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Re: Media is slowly picking up on the issue of gay homelessn
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2012, 03:38:41 PM »
Your absolutely right if there was any leadership here you'd be the one of the first ones banned.
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