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~2 dozen Programa Ibicuy residents escape and notify police
Ursus:
Another article 'bout the 50% exodus...
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Diario El Argentino
Internos de un centro de rehabilitación huyeron y se refugiaron en la Jefatura
25/01/11 | Fueron 24 residentes que denunciaron irregularidades en el régimen de permanencia. La mayoría quedó a cargo de familiares. Las autoridades de la clínica interpusieron una contradenuncia por amenazas. El juez García Jurado tiene en sus manos el caso.
Una confusa situación con denuncias cruzadas, sucedió en Villa Paranacito, departamento Islas, en la noche del domingo.
Fue cuando 24 pacientes, internados voluntariamente, en la Comunidad Terapéutica para el Tratamiento de Adicciones, "Programa Ibicuy", escaparon de la institución y se refugiaron en la Jefatura Departamental.
Aunque los primeros informes daban cuenta de una fuga, lo que realmente ocurrió fue es que los residentes del costoso centro de rehabilitación acudieron a la Jefatura para denunciar a las autoridades de la institución por el tratamiento que estaban recibiendo, que calificaron como muy duro. También los internos exigían que se les concediera el derecho de movilidad.
Con una contradenuncia presentada por los responsables de la Comunidad, el caso llegó a manos del juez de Instrucción N° 1 en turno de Feria, doctor Eduardo García Jurado, quien dispuso que el defensor oficial, doctor Pablo Ledesma, y el auxiliar de Justicia verificaran si se estaba cumpliendo con lo que dispone la Ley de Salud Mental vigente, ya que en el centro de tratamiento habían quedado otros 26 internos, que no acompañaron a los que salieron del lugar.
Con el correr de las horas las autoridades judiciales se pusieron en contacto con los familiares de los 24 internos que permanecían en sede policial, de los cuales 20 se retiraron hacia sus domicilios en distintos puntos del país o a nuevos sitios de internación. Los cuatro restantes retornaron a la Comunidad ya que dos de ellos están a cargo de jueces que deben decidir en la cuestión, mientras que los dos restantes quedaron nuevamente internados en el centro isleño por así disponerlos sus familiares, junto a los 26 residentes que no habían participado del episodio.
Investigación judicial
Consultado el doctor García Jurado sobre lo sucedido, manifestó: "En principio no estaríamos frente a un delito, por cuando el reclamo, que hacen los internos por su derecho de movilidad, no constituye un delito. Pero también estamos investigando la denuncia que hicieron los miembros de la clínica, en la que aseguran que fueron amenazados, en el contexto de los reclamos que hicieron los residentes para poder recuperar su derecho ambulatorio", señaló el magistrado.
Cabe apuntar que el juez en varias oportunidades visitó la Comunidad Terapéutica y está al tanto del control estricto que se desarrolla para la rehabilitación de personas con problemas de adicción. "A primera vista, no estamos visualizando un claro delito penal, por ahora. Esto no quiere decir que con la continuidad de la investigación no aparezca algún hecho. No obstante, lo que aparece muy claro es una controversia naturalmente entre los internos con las autoridades del centro. Por un lado los residentes están por su propia voluntad y no sólo firmaron un acuerdo para estar allí, sino además pagaron un costoso tratamiento (NdeR: De varios miles de pesos mensuales) y ahora no están de acuerdo", remarcó el magistrado, que ordenó una investigación a nivel provincial y municipal sobre las habilitaciones del centro de rehabilitación y cuántas inspecciones se hicieron desde el área de Salud, provincial y municipal, manifestó García Jurado.
Copyright 2006-2010 Diario El Argentino SRL.
Troublemaker:
--- Quote from: "T-Rex" ---
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "T-Rex" ---We still also need to find out if Juan actually posted on the, "Elan Saved My Life".
I understand Ursus you have kindly stated you are not inclined to get into the facebook gutter, I respect this. I'm just saying.
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Actually, I have no problem mucking about on Facebook. Didn't mean to imply that, in case I somehow did. It's just that I'm swamped with other stuff right now...
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I've caused enough ruckus about this that I think I should at least apply more of myself. I am asking some others I know to help me come up with a plan to get Juan on record.
But once again we have to deal with some unscrupulous behind the scenes shenanigans. Seems some one has alerted Juan to the going's on around this site for some reason.
This whole deal smells.
I just want to tie this guy to Elan. I think will all know but I want him on record saying it.
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You have Danny. Cut the bullshit. YV 23 confronted you about the e-mail you sent him a few months ago, and every time he mentioned it you went silent. Nothing shuts you up but the truth
The fact you can look at this, and see that kids are killing themselves, and let this man know that people are looking into him, shows that your still an abuser.
You should be ashamed of yourself
Ursus:
A rough Google translation of the above article:
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Diario El Argentino
Internal rehab fled and took refuge in the Head
25/01/11 | Were 24 residents who reported irregularities in the regime of permanence. Most were placed with relatives. Officials at the clinic filed a counterclaim for threats. Jury Judge Garcia is holding the case.
A confusing situation with cross-complaints, it happened in Villa Paranacito, department Islands on Sunday night.
It was when 24 patients admitted voluntarily, in the Therapeutic Community for Substance Abuse Treatment, "Ibicuy Program", escaped from the institution and took refuge in the Departmental Headquarters.
Although early reports were aware of a leak, what really happened was is that residents of expensive rehabilitation center came to headquarters to report to the authorities of the institution for the treatment they were receiving, describing it as very hard. Inmates also demanded that they be granted the right to mobility.
In a counterclaim filed by the heads of the Community, the case went to the judge of Instruction No. 1 in turn Fair, Dr. Eduardo Garcia Jurado, who ordered that the public defender, Dr. Pablo Ledesma, Assistant Justice and verify if it was complying with the requirement of the current Mental Health Act, as in the treatment center had been 26 other inmates who did not accompany those who left the place.
With the passing of the hours the judicial authorities contacted the families of the 24 inmates who remained in police custody, of which 20 were removed to their homes in different parts of the country or new places of internment. The remaining four returned to the Community since two of them are run by judges who must decide on the issue, while the remaining two were again placed in the center island so to arrange his family, along with the 26 residents who had not part of the episode.
Inquest
Dr. García Jurado consulted about what happened, said: "In principle there would be faced with a crime, when the claim, made ??by inmates for their right of mobility, not a crime. But we are also investigating the complaint made ??by the members of the clinic, which claim they were threatened, in the context of claims made ??by the residents their right to recover ambulatory," said the magistrate.
It should be noted that the judge on several occasions visited the TC and is aware of the strict control that is developed for the rehabilitation of people with addiction problems. "At first glance, we are not currently a clear criminal offense, for now. This is not to say that with the continuation of the investigation does not appear any fact. However, what appears clear is a dispute between the internal course with the authorities the center. On one side are residents of their own volition and not just signed an agreement to be there, but also paid a costly treatment (Nder: of several thousand dollars per month) and now disagree," remarked the magistrate, who ordered an investigation at the provincial and municipal allotments rehabilitation center and how many inspections were made from the area of ??Health, provincial and municipal Garcia said Jury.
Copyright 2006-2010 Diario El Argentino SRL.
Troublemaker:
And, before you say you're not Danny
--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---
--- Quote from: "Froderik" ---I don't know who is real and who isn't with that...the various "DB II"s and all of that.. it's pretty confusing, really....
Hey, maybe someone could type up a short list of Danny's various screen names, as well as a list of some of the "not-Dannies" who are impersonating / trolling?
Thanks in advance.
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Let me be the one who helps you since I have first hand knowledge.
DannyB II and T-Rex are the only user names I use here on fornits.[/u][/b]
I have been accused of being others.
Here are some friends of mine who are often accused of being me.
heretik- He has been posting here for awhile. He is friends with at least an dozen people here.
He has also worked for me and with me for over 20 years, went through Marathon House with
me, was at my wedding ect...bla bla!!
Margaret Devlin- Went through Elan with Albert Beauchane and myself. She didn't like what went on here
so pretty much she is gone. (you know Albert he put Wayno on the map, w/o Big Al Wayno is nothing.)
Ruaraidh- also went through Marathon House with heretik and myself. He comes here occasionally because
he just can't stand Wayne.
Hoaratio- is a strange dooood who just enjoys the foolishness and trys to bring some sanity to the situation.
I am sure these folks will come by at some point and put their own two cents in but I wanted to give a heads up.
*Please be aware that others will come by and put in their comments of who they want me to be. Take it with a grain
of salt.*
Now to you Froderik, you have a lot of gall coming here asking for anything.
Your racist post concerning O'Bama told us all, what you are about. I am sure it is you who is spasming the Open Forum
with the current racist remarks. (I noticed you made sure the post I am talking about was deleted.)
Trust me duchess nobody cares what you want.
I see you didn't ask for Waynes, Felices or anyone else.
Why don't you supply us with your current user names verified by the Admins.
Thanks in advance duchess!!
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And noone calls us Elanians but you.
Troublemaker:
--- Quote from: "T-Rex" ---
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "T-Rex" ---We still also need to find out if Juan actually posted on the, "Elan Saved My Life".
I understand Ursus you have kindly stated you are not inclined to get into the facebook gutter, I respect this. I'm just saying.
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Actually, I have no problem mucking about on Facebook. Didn't mean to imply that, in case I somehow did. It's just that I'm swamped with other stuff right now...
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I've caused enough ruckus about this that I think I should at least apply more of myself. I am asking some others I know to help me come up with a plan to get Juan on record.
--- Quote ---But once again we have to deal with some unscrupulous behind the scenes shenanigans. Seems some one has alerted Juan to the going's on around this site for some reason.
--- End quote ---
This whole deal smells.
I just want to tie this guy to Elan. I think will all know but I want him on record saying it.
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I was about to fall asleep, when it hit me, DANNY, how do you know Juan knows about this?
You're reporting to him. You really are working with him.
I know your going to accuse me of being Wayne now, but who cares? How do you know this? And please don't tell us you wriggled the information out of him, only clever people are able to do that and your an idiot
How can you read about people killing themselves, and then go report this information to that animal? I always thought Wayne was an asshole for telling you to kill your self but not any more. I've never publicly denied your survivor status, but I do now. Your an evil thing. A repulsive hurtful, hateful animal. Just like Juan
Wow
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