Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Apologia - Serious debate only, please!
Anonymous:
I just read an article on change and transformation in O Magazine: Here is a link to the article:
http://www.oprah.com/omagazine/200401/o ... beck.jhtml
It reminds me of my own process of change, and what I hear from students in wwasps programs. Some never get past the first phase, because it's painful! "Some people fight like crazy to keep their current identities from dissolving."
The full article n the magazine is a wonderful example of how parents and graduates "fly" and how they got there.
Antigen:
Holy guacamole!!!
--- Quote ---"Some people fight like crazy to keep their current identities from dissolving."
--- End quote ---
Well, yeah! Those would be the sane people, the ones who will fight like crazy to resist brainwashing!
This is just what I'm talking about when I say the troubled parent industry is not the whole problem. It exists, and grows, in response to a demand for their services. What the hell is wrong with us, as a society, that we seek advice for living from freaks on TV? Even AFTER they repeatedly tell us that we need to eliminate our own personalities in order to become successfull, happy Prozac poppers and chronic dieters just like them?
They used to burn witches. Today we laugh at them. Today we jail people for marijuana. Tomorrow they'll laugh at us.
--Robert "Rosie" Rowbotham
--- End quote ---
Deborah:
So another unrelated article about how someone thinks the WWASP program works. Why do you W supporters have to resort to unrelated material to explain the W process? Ex: the Lovmour essay. If it is so wonderful and successful, why aren't essays and kudos written about it all over the internet?
Wish I knew Martha Beck. I'd ask her if she supported the breaking down process and abuse employed by all programs. I have dicussed the methods with several PhD child psychologist who did not have a vested interest either way, and they absolutely do not support such BM methods of changing behavior.
The majority of Americans would be up in arms if they knew had any idea what actually goes on behind closed doors.
[ This Message was edited by: Deborah on 2004-01-03 16:05 ]
Anonymous:
Here is a sampling of a few of the thousands of positive successfull stories- WWASPS SUCCESS Stories
I think you will find that these successfull families devote time and engergy to positive activites and do not have time to go to anonmous boards and post stories, not to mention new found suceess with their families and with a WWASP program but also in work, politics etc, success brings success. Plus success speaks for it self they have no need to hand out on meaningless bulletin boards. Plus they share their positive experinces I'm sure within their school board which are private boards.
Cheers ::bigsmilebounce::
To SUCCESS::trophy::
Anonymous:
My Gosh - Look what you just wrote:
"Some people fight like crazy to keep their current identities from dissolving."
And WELL they Should!
What do you think is happening to you when your Identity is Dissolved?
You are given a new one of SOMEONE ELSE?S disign!
Its called Brain washing. Or Conditioning, or Programming.
Just b/c the queen of day time TV crap and pabulum touts getting rid of your Identity for a 'new and improved' model, doesn?t make it a healthy or wise thing to do!
Geez, I can hardly believe you are talking about dissolving peoples Identifies as a good thing! Its the stuff of nightmares; Orwell's big brother and animal farm come to life - and you like the sheep, or poor confused Boxer, think its a good thing!
http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/des ... rate.shtml
^explanation of the siminairs; a history lesson
http://www.rockypreps.com/desperate/sit ... ont-pg.htm
^Account of wwasp programs by RockyMt. News
http://archive.salon.com/21st/feature/1 ... ture2.html
hard hitting artical
http://www.csj.org/studyindex/studymind ... lifton.htm
Thought Reform
http://www.rickross.com/reference/brain ... ing19.html
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