Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Apologia - Serious debate only, please!
Anonymous:
I'm the what-if person... and while you claim that doctor runs are done every day, there are *hundreds* of posts by different kids from different schools on different boards who are genuinely different people (I've called them, visited with some-- none have anything to do with PURE or any of your other distraction techniques), AND SOME OF THESE KIDS SAY THEY SUPPORT WWASP, but they admit that the medical care was very rare and that disease was common.
There have been several close-calls with death-- and there's one girl who contracted a serious, life-long lung disease (not TB) who must be making the legal department of WWASP fear for its bowel control.
Read what the kids are saying-- call some of the kids who have complaints, who have been out for a while, who just want to see others treated better, who have zero agenda (many aren't involved in legal action), LISTEN to your own kid, and READ WHAT THE CONTRACT SAYS ABOUT MEDICAL CARE.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2004-01-10 07:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
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I'm the what-if person... and while you claim that doctor runs are done every day, there are *hundreds* of posts by different kids from different schools on different boards who are genuinely different people (I've called them, visited with some-- none have anything to do with PURE or any of your other distraction techniques), AND SOME OF THESE KIDS SAY THEY SUPPORT WWASP, but they admit that the medical care was very rare and that disease was common.
There have been several close-calls with death-- and there's one girl who contracted a serious, life-long lung disease (not TB) who must be making the legal department of WWASP fear for its bowel control.
Read what the kids are saying-- call some of the kids who have complaints, who have been out for a while, who just want to see others treated better, who have zero agenda (many aren't involved in legal action), LISTEN to your own kid, and READ WHAT THE CONTRACT SAYS ABOUT MEDICAL CARE.
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Thanks, What-If Person. Why would anyone disagree with the need to listen to their own child on any issue, especially when it concerns their health and safety? Good advice!!!
Deborah:
***Deborah - Program attitude? There is no "program" attitude. Each person develops their own beliefs, Attitude is a poor choice of words for beliefs.***
The question posed in this debate was why there is such overt disdain for parents who decide its not for them.
Is it an attitude or belief that dissenters are "chattering pigs"?
Who coined the term? The program or 'satisfied' parents? And please define for the readers what "chattering pigs" means, to you.
Deborah:
***They do censor inbound mail for illegal items, not written content.***
Are you talking about weapons, drugs, etc; or unapproved food, toiletries, photos, momentos, etc. What does the program consider "illegal"?
Anonymous:
Mr. What-if says here's the relevant passage from the Spring Creek Parent's Manual:
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The Program staff have to make numerous decisions about when to seek medical/dental help for
students ranging from small to serious ailments, injuries, or needs. We try to make our decisions
taking into consideration a balance between added costs to the parent for medical care, and true
medical need of the Student. The staff, like any parent, can miscalculate the timing or need of
medical intervention. Such miscalculations can result in the student not getting medical intervention as soon as would be recommended or to avoid complications. The Program staff make these
"judgment calls" for and in behalf of the parents. Any such "judgment calls" are subject to human
error, especially since many of these judgment calls would have to be made by a non-medical staff.
For these reasons, the Program or its staff are not liable for any illness, complications or damages occurring to the Student because of a miscalculated "judgment call" made by the staff in terms of the need or timing of medical intervention for the Student.
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They are saying quite explicitly that they will put costs first and children second. They are saying you can't sue them for doing this. They are saying non-medical staff will decide whether or not a health complaint is real, without medical advice.
You will see *nothing* like this in any above-board school or program document-- you will certainly see legal disclaimers, of course, but you will not see anyone saying "we're going to err on the side of cost containment" not caution.
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