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Awake:
@ TC Saved Me. I am also glad to hear you have had success handling your addiction problems, and if your Christian faith was the answer that worked for you that is geat. For me some questions are, how does TC treat kids who don’t believe in Christianity or don’t want to subscribe to that religion? What if TC enforced following a different religion, a Muslim faith, Judaism, Hunduism, whatever? Would that have ended up being successful for you? Would you espouse those beliefs as you do Christianity? Would your support for the program now be different under those circumstances?
TC_Saved_Me:
--- Quote from: "Awake" ---@ TC Saved Me. I am also glad to hear you have had success handling your addiction problems, and if your Christian faith was the answer that worked for you that is geat. For me some questions are, how does TC treat kids who don’t believe in Christianity or don’t want to subscribe to that religion? What if TC enforced following a different religion, a Muslim faith, Judaism, Hunduism, whatever? Would that have ended up being successful for you? Would you espouse those beliefs as you do Christianity? Would your support for the program now be different under those circumstances?
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That's very difficult to answer without offending some people, but I'll give it a shot.
First off, I don't know anything about how Teen Challenge treats kids. I went into the program when I was an adult (the name of the program is pretty misleading because most Teen Challenge facilities are for adults 18 and over).
For adults, however, I actually went through the program with a person who was raised Mormon. I know that's not exactly Judaism or Islam. People in TC are allowed to believe whatever they choose to believe. There are no repercussions for believing in something other than Christianity. TC is a Christian program though (everyone who comes into the program knows that), and there are Bible classes and chapel services that each student is required to attend. If the student does not want to follow these rules, they will be disciplined (extra work chores, extra scripture memorization, etc.) If the student does not like that discipline, they are free to walk out of the program at any time.
Here comes the part I anticipate might not be received well, but this is what I believe... As a Christian, I believe that Jesus Christ is "The Way the Truth and the Life," and that "anyone who is in Christ is a new creation. Old things have passed away, and all things have been made new." Only through Christ, do I believe that I would have found salvation and sobriety.
I don't know what "espouse" means. I would not personally financially support a program that was not Christian. That's just my personal convictions though. I believe that "faith" is the most obvious answer to curing an addiction though. I believe that a person can put their faith in Allah or Buddah, and use that faith as a means to get sober - more because of psychological reasons than anything else though. I do not believe that is a soul-saving kind of faith that will get them to heaven though.
none-ya:
--- Quote ---TC-Saved-Me wrote;
I would not personally financially support a program that was not Christian.
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I guess you won't be donating to fornits then.
Oh,and by the way,Buddha is not a god.
TC_Saved_Me:
--- Quote from: "none-ya" ---
--- Quote ---TC-Saved-Me wrote;
I would not personally financially support a program that was not Christian.
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I guess you won't be donating to fornits then.
Oh,and by the way,Buddha is not a god.
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No, I would not financial support Fornits.
And I never said that Buddha was a god.
Have I said something that has cause you to constantly challenge everything I post?
none-ya:
--- Quote ---TC-Saved-Me wrote;
I believe that a person can put their faith in Allah or Buddah, and use that faith as a means to get sober.
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Buddhists do not pray to Buddha. In fact they do not pray to any god.
And yes to your latter question, just about everything you've written rubs me the wrong way. Organized religion is responsible for most of the worlds woes.Just because your blind faith got you sober, that's no excuse to ignore 5000yrs. of human history. I guess even the scientologists have cleaned up some people.(does that make them benevolent?) Trading drugs for religion is simply swaping addictions.
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