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cmack:
I'm surprised she is able to send and receive mail from anyone other than her parents, even then the programs usually read all outgoing and incoming letters. It's important that you do whatever you have to do to keep the lines of communication open. If you antagonize her parents or the program they may cut you off.

Can you give us some background on why she was sent away?

How old is she? At 18 she can leave. Until then it's going to be hard to get her out unless you can convince her parents to change their minds.

Good Luck

Ursus:

--- Quote from: ""cmack" ---...the programs usually read all outgoing and incoming letters...
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Mmm. Not always. Some programs are able to instill or cultivate a certain self-censorship in the students/attendees...

KingBuzzard:
I'm able to exchange letters with her through her mom and yes I know that I cannot antagonize her parents for the risk of being cut off.  I also realize the importance of me keeping the lines of communication open between myself, her, and her parents.  That's my only option for fixing this.  Again, this is why I need information because if I present strong evidence for my side as well as an emotional appeal then I know I have a chance to change their minds

She's 17, turned 17 at Ironwood about 3 weeks ago.  Waiting is not really a viable alternative for me now.

As for why she was sent away, in the words of her father, "Because of her constant defiance!!"  In other words, because she ignored curfew, didn't do her school work, fought with her parents, etc.  Sounds a lot like what most teenagers do.  She did use drugs recreationally as well as drinking underage.  However, the only thing you could have said that she had an addiction too, would've been marijuana.  Even then it was more habitual behavior than addictive.  She had no real psychological issues to speak of, depression and maybe some anxiety issues, but neither were clinically threatening.  She did need some help, I accept that fact fully, but in no way did she require this sort of "help".

cmack:

--- Quote from: "KingBuzzard" ---I'm able to exchange letters with her through her mom and yes I know that I cannot antagonize her parents for the risk of being cut off.  I also realize the importance of me keeping the lines of communication open between myself, her, and her parents.  That's my only option for fixing this.  Again, this is why I need information because if I present strong evidence for my side as well as an emotional appeal then I know I have a chance to change their minds

She's 17, turned 17 at Ironwood about 3 weeks ago.  Waiting is not really a viable alternative for me now.

As for why she was sent away, in the words of her father, "Because of her constant defiance!!"  In other words, because she ignored curfew, didn't do her school work, fought with her parents, etc.  Sounds a lot like what most teenagers do.  She did use drugs recreationally as well as drinking underage.  However, the only thing you could have said that she had an addiction too, would've been marijuana.  Even then it was more habitual behavior than addictive.  She had no real psychological issues to speak of, depression and maybe some anxiety issues, but neither were clinically threatening.  She did need some help, I accept that fact fully, but in no way did she require this sort of "help".
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See this thread: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=38312

Read the ASTART report. It may give you some ammunition to use with her parents. I'll post some links to other sites below. It's a lot of reading on your part, but knowledge is power and the more you know about this industry the better equipped you'll be to persuade her parents.

Programs typically employ coercive persuasion/thought reform/mind control tactics that are designed to break people down and rebuild them in the program mold. Because the vast majority of kids locked up in these places aren't aware of what's being done to them they are powerless to resist it. Even if you fail at getting her released it's important that you are there when she gets out and help her understand what's been done to her. Some program graduates come out praising the program, and refusing to believe they were brainwashed. Years later the nightmares, anxiety, and PTSD surface. Some make the connection to their past program experience and seek help. Others just suffer in silence.

I don't want to overload you right now, so just start with the links below. Let me know when you have digested this information and want more.

http://freedomofmind.com/Info/BITE/bitemodel.php

viewtopic.php?f=43&t=26291

http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... &Itemid=35

http://www.helpatanycost.com/questions.php

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szal ... 15023.html

http://www.rickross.com/reference/brain ... ing10.html

http://www.rickross.com/reference/apolo ... ist23.html

If you have any questions, please ask. Thanks for standing up for your friend. Best Wishes. :cheers:

cmack:

--- Quote ---She did use drugs recreationally as well as drinking underage. However, the only thing you could have said that she had an addiction too, would've been marijuana. Even then it was more habitual behavior than addictive.
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Okay, I lied. Here are some more links.

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2010/08/08/whe ... mokes-pot/

http://www.peele.net/lib/panic.html

The article linked below talks about alcohol, but the information is valid for marijuana as well.
http://www.peele.net/lib/diseasing3.html

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