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Second Nature/Boulder Creek Academy?
« on: November 30, 2011, 09:59:13 PM »
I recently found out that a friend of mine's little brother was shipped off to Second Nature in Utah, and is going straight from there to Boulder Creek Academy in Idaho. I went to dinner with this friend's mom over Thanksgiving, and asked how "H" was doing, since I had not heard from him in a while, and was told he was send to SN, but had to "stay longer than anticipated" and was not allowed to come home for Thanksgiving (he was supposed to be out at the end of October). They are sending him straight to BCA, not even allowing either of his parents to fly out to see him. "H" is supposed to be in my wedding in June, and BCA told his mother that he "may or may not be ready to leave the premises" and that she might not be allowed to fly him back to the east coast where we are.
I've done some reading on here about the two programs, and I am really worried about him. I have been reading all about these places on here, and I know they are bad news bears. I don't know that I would be able to change his mother's mind (he is basically being sent away parents are divorced and his father is shitty to him, the SN place made up some diagnoses which she told me about and I know they are incorrect), but I would like to at least have something concrete to tell her about the terribleness she is sending/sent "H" into.
Also, I guess I am looking for some reassurance that whenever "H" makes it out he will still be the same kid I've know since he was 6.
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Re: Second Nature/Boulder Creek Academy?
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2011, 10:23:59 PM »
No, unfortunately, he won't be the same kid.

The good news is that it sounds like he is resisting the program and not graduating. Typically parents go out for the graduation. So if they aren't going out to 2N, it seems they are just going to ship him to BCA. Not many kids have the strength to resist the brain washing that long. Usually the programs last a couple months so if he was supposed to be home by the end of October and he still wasn't home by Thanksgiving then he is giving them a lot of resistance. GOOD FOR HIM!

Here are some links that'll show a little about the industry and the mind control process he's been exposed to. It'll be even worse at BCA.

http://freedomofmind.com/Info/BITE/bitemodel.php

http://www.enterthefreudianslip.com/sur ... ential.htm

http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... &Itemid=35

http://www.helpatanycost.com/questions.php

http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... &Itemid=79

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szal ... 15023.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 62_pf.html

http://www.rickross.com/reference/brain ... hing8.html

http://www.rickross.com/reference/apolo ... ist23.html -----VERY IMPORTANT

http://www.peele.net/lib/panic.html

http://www.peele.net/lib/diseasing3.html

You didn't say why "H" was sent away, but the links above should provide enough information to cause any rational parent grave concern.

"H" has been and will continue to be subject to coercive persuasion/thought reform/mind control. The seminars he will be subject to at BCA are based upon est. See this link: http://www.rickross.com/reference/apolo ... ist23.html

If he was taken from his home by escorts that's a whole other level of trauma he'll have to deal with. Please do whatever you can to convince his parents to bring him home. For the money they are spending they can hire someone to babysit him full time till he's 18. The only thing these programs are good at is separating parents from their money. The kids are the collateral damage.

BTW, how old is "H"? If he's close to 18 make sure someone is there to rescue him on his birthday.
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Re: Second Nature/Boulder Creek Academy?
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2011, 07:57:55 AM »
"H" is only 15, which is one reason I am so worried about him. That is a long time to be away if they keep him until he is 18. He was sent away for being "withdrawn" and "shy", mainly because his father treats him like shit while he dotes on his brother and sister. Once he got to 2N, they decided he was "Oppositional Defiant, PDD:NOS, and had Anti-Social Personality Disorder". Trust me, he has none of these things. He is a normal 15 year old stuck on the shitty end of his parents divorce.

Thanks for all the links, I will look through them and see if I can find anything to send his mom. She may hate me for it, but I'm willing to lose the friendship of his family in order to save him. I just can't understand why she doesn't see that a place that hasn't even met him that knows he won't be able to leave in 7 months is not a bad place to send him. It makes me sad.
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Re: Second Nature/Boulder Creek Academy?
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2011, 11:05:18 AM »
Quote from: "ashker"
"H" is only 15, which is one reason I am so worried about him. That is a long time to be away if they keep him until he is 18. He was sent away for being "withdrawn" and "shy", mainly because his father treats him like shit while he dotes on his brother and sister. Once he got to 2N, they decided he was "Oppositional Defiant, PDD:NOS, and had Anti-Social Personality Disorder". Trust me, he has none of these things. He is a normal 15 year old stuck on the shitty end of his parents divorce.

Thanks for all the links, I will look through them and see if I can find anything to send his mom. She may hate me for it, but I'm willing to lose the friendship of his family in order to save him. I just can't understand why she doesn't see that a place that hasn't even met him that knows he won't be able to leave in 7 months is not a bad place to send him. It makes me sad.

These people really are masters at manipulating parents. The TTI (Troubled Teen Industry) is a relatively small, inbred group. The process usually starts with an Educational Consultant, who just happens to know the perfect place for Jr. What parents don't know is that the script is almost always just the same, and the ed consultants typically get a kick-back or some kind of remuneration from the programs they refer to.

It doesn't seem to matter what Jr's problem is. They have a one-size-fits-all solution that starts with Wilderness and ends up at a place like BCA.
http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/819611
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 Boulder Creek Academy: Interview with a Survivor, Part 1
Boulder Creek Academy: Interview with a Survivor, Part 1
Jul 19, 2008

Hurrikayne: What is the name of the facility you were in?
Alex: Boulder Creek Academy, in Idaho.

When were you there & how long did you stay?
I was there from June 22, 2007 to June 21, 2008.

Their website states that “Boulder Creek Academy is a safe refuge for at-risk troubled teens.” Do you feel that you were “at-risk” or “troubled”?

I feel that I was troubled, but not ‘at-risk’, whatever that means (assuming you mean cutting, drugs, sex, etc). I was mildly depressed, and had mood swings because of my medication. Basically, my parents didn't want to wait out me being on new medication.

They also describe typical students as, “Capable but discouraged by academic struggle; Isolated, low self-esteem; Unable to see consequences of actions; Experimented with drugs and alcohol.” Do you feel these generalizations accurately describe how you were at the time you entered the program?
I would say about 1/3 of the student body is as they described. Some of the people there are INCREDIBLY intelligent. One kid was doing college calculus from Stanford before he was 18; another is reading books about string theory.

Most kids there, however, are not isolated. I heard so many stories about crazy shit that happened at their homes and whatnot with their friends. From what I saw, some of those kids had pretty good self-esteem. Most of the students there have done drugs, but not all of them.

The rest are idiotic, immature simpletons. They fail classes (which are not hard to pass), can't see that A+B=C, and are total druggies. Most of the kids who saw the website made jokes about how the kids had 'an IQ of over 90', because some of the kids were so stupid. One of the kids said that all the buildings in Tokyo were made of bamboo, and another believed that Japanese tiger eggs existed.

Whose idea was it for you to go to this facility?
It was my parents' idea.

Why did your parents feel that a therapeutic boarding school would be better than a ‘normal’ boarding school?

I honestly don't know why my parents thought it was better, but I'm guessing it had to do with a lot of one-sided misinformation. They learned about this school from an Education Consultant, Molly Baron, and then my therapist at Second Nature, Jay Huffine, and took a tour at BCA with Shaunale Wilson. My mom really is easy to get bought into all of this crap, and I'm honestly surprised that my dad was sucked into it. Apparently, my dad looked at normal ones too, but he said at the time it seemed like the right thing to do, but now he seems to regret his decision.

Were you included in the decision?
No, I was not included whatsoever. I wanted to go to a normal boarding school, but they sent me to a wilderness.

How did you get there?
I was transported to wilderness, and then to the school

What do you mean by 'transported' and what kind of wilderness were you taken to?

I was woken up at 5 AM at home by two men, who talked to me about a program called Second Nature in Bend, Oregon. I was excited, and thought it was a (normal) boarding school. I was allowed to take a shower and grab my Nintendo DS to use on the trip there. Then I was handed off to two people from Second Nature at the Airport in Richmond, OR. They took me to a doctor to get a physical, then to the headquarters of the place where I had to strip naked and show that I didn't have any 'contraband' on me, (luckily no cavity search), and then got shipped off to the middle of nowhere.


Below is a post by a fornits member who is a recent graduate of BCA regarding his Ed Consultant.
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Re: Lexy Spett - Bodin Associates

Postby Aether » 30 Oct 2011, 02:17
There's no coincidence with the turn of events in my life associated with Ms. Spett, whether for better or for worse; I was referred to her last year before I was sent away, and being fragile as I was at the time, she was very confrontational about me being dishonest about my answers on the personality evaluation and the inkblot tests; with the Rorschach tests, in truth I actually wasn't seeing anything, so I just claimed to be seeing positive images because I thought those were the answers I was supposed to give. In all honesty, I don't buy their legitimacy and I consider them subjective pseudoscience. As for the personality questionnaire, I also fully will admit to giving dishonest answers because I thought certain responses would be reflective of having a more optimistic mindset. Regardless, Ms. Spett claimed to have been wary of inconsistencies and straightforwardly told me she was used to seeing kids who were "like sticks in the mud." It's out there that she readily refers children to BCA, so there's not a doubt in my mind that her influence was present in the decisions regarding the programs I was sent to. Why? Because it was happening earlier on, even if I wasn't aware of it. I knew my BCA therapist kept in contact with her for certain records, because her name would come up on the computer screen with contact lists when I was doing phone calls; however, it was only later that I realized that Lexy is friends with my WILDERNESS therapist on Facebook! This is beyond professional connections, the people in the industry obviously make buddies with each other when they see how easily they can exploit sensitive situations. The people in the industry are all connected, there's no hiding it. This is the information age, nothing is secret. EVERYTHING is out there. It hurts to know that she is harming innocent peoples' lives like this, and by definition would never volunteer information about reports accusing facilities of abuse and wrongdoing. When will people take NOTICE?! I will keep faith in that justice will prevail. My sympathies to anyone and everyone who has had the misfortune of dealing with this hurtful and unjust woman. :karma:
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