Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Elan School
Some Clarification Please?
DannyB II:
--- Quote from: "Paul St. John" ---Wow.. this thread is great.. Thanks for the clarification.... LOL!
Anyhow thus far, this is what I am getting from it all..
Wayne is accusing danny of sodomizing him, forcing another dude to blow him, and raping ( statutory) another girl.
This is a stupid place to discuss this, but I really can t think of any better.
I would be curious if Wayne would be willing to scan those progress reports that he mentions on his radio appearance, and post them up... I am sorry.. Overall, I think he probably went there, but it is odd that nobody know shim, and anyone who comes up saying that they know him now could be anybody, or in most cases, Mark Babitz..
Danny, why were you forced to leave Elan?
Paul
PS Does anybody else realize what a big deal this is? Not only is man being accused of numerous sex crimes, but if he is innocent, this brings Wayne's whole book into question, which, outside of Elan closing is probably one of the biggest accomplishments for the Elan community.
PSS This thread is written primarily for the few people who actually have brains and care to use them.. There are those posts that ooze and perplex, and then there are those that stand like solid bricks... Amongst the ooze, I see a few bricks, and from that can guess taht there some decent minds who are actually interested...
PSS None-Ya is not Danny. danny is Danny.. None-Ya is None-Ya.. Now if what Wayne said on his radio appearance is true, that 3 different people pm ed him that No0ne-Ya is Danny, it was probably all the same person using different names, or dishonest people who just don t care what is true.
PSSS Wayne, if you are on the up and up, you should probably watch who you associate with. To some of these people, you may just be a tool.
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Troublemaker:
--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---
--- Quote from: "Che Gookin" ---I said I'm going to need more than Wayne's word. But I'm not gonna lie, I do think the possibility exists. But possibility is a hell of a lot different than definitely, which you seem to keep ignoring for some weird reason.
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Why do you have to take everything to the extreme. Is it that important to you to make me look that bad here. Oh wow now we have Danny on raping and sodomizing, the van dragging wasn't enough. If you can remember back far enough I didn't even exist, I was Marty.
Aaron this is sick and I find it hard to believe that you can be on the "CAFETY" site right now as I write debating with a program owner about oversight and your also down here calling me a rapist and a sodomite based upon fucking internet posts.
I am a survivor of 11 years, I have been molested while incarcerated (Wayne knew this from 2 years ago) as a young child. Why do you think he is throwing this up in my face all of a sudden. Nothing these sick fuckers post is without a purpose.
Wayne was the first one to mention my nephew, threaten my sister and her daughter ect.... and you are backing this sick fuck.
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Danny was fucked in the ass in a prison orgy. I wonder who will play him in the movie :rofl:
DannyB II:
--- Quote from: "Paul St. John" ---
--- Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan" ---A few points.
3. I don't have to prove what's in my book is true, Danny and Elan have to prove it's not. They've been working hard on that and can't. Believe it or don't, at this point I don't give a fuck.
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I'm sorry, man.. but this where our views on things differ. In a world, where that were the case, things would be very backwards... and well.. fucked up.
The burden of proof is always on the accuser. When law/science/reasoning or anything is practiced properly, innocence never needs to be proven. Guilt has to be established rather... and this is not done through a person writing a book. The person can be anyone and have any motive, or even be mistaken.. Now, perhaps, you consider yourself a straight up guy... but if we applied your logic universally, can you imagine what type of world we would live in...
Anybody could write anything about anyone, and then that person would have to take time out of their lives to disprove it. If you did not like someone, you could just have a bunch of people write stories about them, and they would have to spend so much time disproving things, they would lose all else.
and that's just scratching the surface.. If you apply the principle you are assuming, elsewhere, which, if it is right, there would be no reason not too...
You would have to disprove the claims of every insane person, before you could put them away.... AmityVille Horror guy heard voices, and I can t disprove it.. Until, we can disprove it, we must assume it happenned.
has anyone wrote a book, that thoroughly refutes every detail Mein Kampf, because afterall, we must be fair here, and until that is done, we must assume that everything in the book is true...
Do you see what I am getting at? If not, I don t know what to tell you... Neither Danny nor Elan can called u[pon to claim a negative. I simply don t know for sure, that your claims are correct. You are the only person who has said anything about Danny committing sex crimes, especailly upon other males... I cannot assume it is true, just because someone has said it.
Even this whole fucking van story.. why is there no one who can say- " I WAS THERE! I REMEMBER IT CLEARLY! AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENNED!"
Paul St. John
Paul St. John
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cum guzzler:
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DannyB II:
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
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--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---
--- Quote from: "Che Gookin" ---Given I think you are a creepy disturbed little fucker, no not at all. And fuck you, I never once mentioned anything about your nephew. I'm the one that told them to knock it off.
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OK, just so I get this straight you really think I raped and sodomized people. All based on comments made on the internet. You are comfortable assuming I did these horrible actions.
Well that helps me out, Aaron.
Thanks.
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I do. A lot of people do
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And some do not. And some are not sure.
Danny, I really do miss your "rebuttal of Wayne's book" thread. I looked forward to reading all of your updates in it. Perhaps you could consider returning it or some semblance of it to the forum?
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Don't know if you are being serious or not but I will answer anyway. I will be bringing it back I am just having it done a bit more professionally. I want to post it all at once so the trolls can not interrupt the consistency.
There is no way I would deprive Fornits.
It will be back in a week at the most.
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