Xelebes,
Why are you even in this conversation Ben Bradley, this is on the Elan forum and your not a survivor from Elan or any where else for that matter. I could be wrong though and be talking with Wayne the sock puppet master. IDK or care.
If you are Ben then just sit back, butt out and read. Show some respect, like your blog Absolute Write asked me to do. You are interfering in a matter you have no knowledge of. You don't even know Wayne aside from the Derailed Thread.
Stop acting like you know what he went through because you don't at all.
Did you just confuse me with Ben? I'm going to have to tell him that, lmao.
I'm not ben. Ben most likely lives in Georgia or in that corner of the US. I'm from Canada. I'm just as much a victim of institutional abuse, though never as vicious, as you are. I've seen abusive people, I've been in (healthy) therapy along with abusive patients. Some of them were dealing with depression from their own abusive childhoods, some of them were dealing with borderline psychotic symptoms because of abusive upbringings, some of them were sociopaths who were trying to see if they could feel intense and sustained moments of emotion like fear, anger, joy, sadness. The abusers who abused the abusers are either in a sad state of affairs (old age feebleness) or in jail. What I don't want to see you do is continue to try and dismiss the specific actions you have done and dismiss the feelings of others have against you for those actions. Yes you were a victim but you were also a perpetrator. You haven't done that, as far as I can tell.
Where is the compassion towards Wayne when he says that he remembers you being a monster. Not everything might be true, but enough of it has you doing some of the nasty work. That was the modus operandi for the staff at Elan. That was the modus operandi for the staff at many psychiatric facilities for a long time.
Yes, I never went to Elan but I do know how these operations run.
So, to cap it off, stop with the dismissal & deflect with your own intimidations. Just leave it be.