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Body of Evidence Against The Sembler and Board of Directors
« on: September 18, 2011, 12:49:39 AM »
A survivor found this post, contacted a survivor engaged in the site building and the update is as follows according to them. I was asked by the group to post this as an update on the two year project. Below also includes so newly declassified information. Anon is posting on behalf of this survivor as you
will see below.

                       2011 Statement From Group Of Survivors
--------- A delay was due to the untimely death of our beloved survivor whose efforts cannot be matched, whose life was spent as one of the most dedicated survivors to the cause of obtaining justice for us all and we shall always remember our fallen hero.  

     We also have a survivor who is VERY ill and facing paralysis as well as suffering from major heart problems. Who we are not certain
     will survive the year. This survivor recently underwent their 21st surgery. This illness , paralysis is in our opinion, a result of time
     spent at Straight as many many other survivors suffer the same type of injuries just not to that degree. This particular post request
     is being written by me, anonymous, due to this survivors inability to type and the fact that they remain in the hospital. This survivor faces
     an additional two surgeries however, the recovery time from the recent surgeries is well over eight months and the other surgeries have been
     put on hold due to lack of confidence that they will survive two additional serious surgeries.
    This survivor is our document volunteer so, that is another reason for such a long delay. We hope you all will understand that we are and continue to work on ensuring that this site, its documentation, the request to congress for restitution all go forward in the time frame we have put forth.

Further delay was due to wanting to include the corporations associated with individuals such as Betty Sembler as well as other names that are very
well known to any survivor and some new names that are not.
There is also the desire to uncover the countries that some of the corporations are operating or have filed as operating in as well as foreign individuals that are NOT INVOLVED WITH STRAIGHT BUT DO HOLD AN INTERESTING LINK TO THE SEMBLERS AND THEIR MULTITUDE OF CORPORATIONS.

Any investigator or attorney or former and current members of ISAC will tell you that proving and the task of  linking corporations and or individuals to any type of shell game in laymen’s terms is a LONG , tedious task. IF THAT CRIME WERE TO TAKE PLACE BY ANY CORPORATION OR INDIVIDUAL AND WE REPEAT IF.
IT IS KNOWN AS ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT CRIMES TO PROVE. The corporation and individuals connections are to say the least interesting when properly linked.

    Having said that, the site is due to be up and running within eight months. However, as for the Bush connection to Straight it is limited and we cannot comment any further than that at this time.

We can say that recent declassified documents do show that victims of "experimental treatment" conducted by the US Government and or its hired contractors were awarded damages by the government.
 These payments were awarded in the 1960’s and 70’s but were classified.

This process although wrapped in paperwork will be discussed on the website but it is important for each survivor to be familiar with their state and their congressman if they wish to proceed or have knowledge of what this will entail once it is asked for as a group.

It was also previously believed that such experiments ceased several years prior to Straight. It was difficult to find documentation that such experiments continued to dates that would match the formation of Straight. These newly declassified documents do show or at least indicate that the dates do match. The survivors group does hold some documentation that can be interpreted as more than opinion that Straight was
one of those experimental programs Thereby giving the opportunity for survivors to request such things as medical payments, and other such payments based on the payments given to previous victims of experimental programs. We believe these recently declassified documents will help survivors
in holding those individuals that are responsible for the human attrocities that took place, accountable. It should also assist in helping survivors
obtain restitution for the human suffering they endured as well as many other incidents that in our opinion, demand restituion.
Almost all of us survivors are aware at how difficult it has been to bring any justice to this issue so although these documents are full of more
evidence than we have seen at some murder trials it will be a difficult road. We hope each survivor can help in their own way once the site is up
in assisting this survivor group with any further documentation, phone calls, copies, etc. -------


We do hope that at that time when the site is up, survivors can work together as a team of individuals who suffered together.
We hope the comradery can be such that is often displayed by other prisoners of war who suffered together in such wars as Vietnam and the world wars.

This particular group of survivors has not revealed who we all are for obvious reasons. We hope that the owner of the board will understand our wanting
to remain nameless until the site is up. We are certain that the survivors here on this board know exactly who we are without us revealing all of our names yet. We are equally certain that every survivor knows that we are still investigating some allegations against former Straight Board
members and obtaining documentation and it would hinder us to reveal all our names at this stage.

                     -------END STATEMENT 2011

 (I am sure that many survivors are asking why the Semblers do not come out with a denial to even one of the allegations but then we know why. Don't we?.

  Oh yes, they asked me to tell you Betty, sorry about the disruption of looking into your thousand dollar dresses coming through customs in their humble opinion untaxed. However, when the women at your beauty parlor start talking to survivors than they have to contact the  appropriate people to make sure that their opinion or what they heard can’t be true. Oops their bad they truly didn’t mean to mess up your wardrobe delivery schedule.)


                        ORGINAL POST OF 2010
Soon (the website and information is currently still on schedule) a website will be posted with the format of the groups opinion with documents for one to draw their own conclusion. This site will name Betty Sembler, Miller Newton and various Board members from the Morgan Yacht and Gandy building; as
again in the groups opinion, cult leaders, kidnapping, and other felonies. Much of the new information is in regard to the board members and Betty Sembler. According to this group of survivors; this information will also be distributed throughout the press and federal government.

Many of the opinions of the group are already backed by documents created by ISAC including but not limited to; The Sembler Report, Betty Sembler, The Tax Report, The Crimes report. The group thanks the recent director of ISAC for her hard work.

It is common knowledge the involvement of Straight Inc in felonies. It is also common knowledge of Betty Sembler’s role in the aforementioned program.
 It will also show the Bush involvement with the Semblers which is hardly illegal but in our opinion immoral however, there appears to be records of a Bush
  being involved with Drug Free America foundation formally known as Straight Inc.
It will discuss at length Betty Sembler and Miller Newton’s involvement in the criminal institution called Straight. This will also include the discussion of almost ALL former board members, their involvement in Straight. This will include what crimes they knew about and when they became of aware of them.
It will also include a discussion of Helen Peterman, Chris Casselor, Jim Hartz, This “discussion” as we are calling it, will include documentation to allow each reader to draw his or her own conclusion about the individuals discussed. The documentation will also be used to assist survivors in the long task of requesting that restitution be paid.


Emails and flyers will also be sent out through the press.
There are survivors who are discussing the issues and statute of limitations right now with Senators, Congressman and others. In recent weeks and or months, several discussions with the media, government officials, Senators and Congressman have taken place regarding the above mentioned individuals their involvement with Straight and the felonies that were committed including but not limited to; torture, water boarding, crimes against humanity, illegal removal of human rights as guaranteed by the US Constitution, kidnapping, child abuse, tax evasion, fraud , negligence that resulted in the death of an individual, practicing medicine without a license and much more. The discussion has also involved other countries, the United Nations and the United Nations convention on torture and the violation of this convention.
It further has included the United States Government responsibility to provide lifelong medical care for individual survivors. A formal request will be presented to demand a formal apology for the events that transpired in Straight Inc.
Helen Peterman was contacted over a month ago and Betty Sembler, Miller Newton, any former Board member or any of the Bush family may contact her to inquire what the survivors are asking for.
This is a direct result of a group of survivors. Some of whom have recently obtained new documents, some of whom are involved in litigation, some of whom have a working relationship with various Federal officials, some of whom have obtained new information on Betty Sembler, Drug Free America, various former board of directors and more. The new information on former board of directors has brought many previous questions to a conclusion.
The purpose of this post should be evident to all those who know of , were in, or participated in the operations of Straight Inc.

                END STATEMENT OF 2010
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Re: Body of Evidence Against The Sembler and Board of Direct
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2011, 02:38:54 AM »
Anon here again on behalf of this survivor.
I was asked to reiterate the following as the above is a long post and this survivor believes this is a very important part of that post.
   Prior to the 2011 declassified documents there was no previous case history of the US Government paying any restitution to victims of brainwashing
   or mind control experiments. This has been one of the HUGE hurdles in even asking for it for survivors. The government did not even admit to the
  experiments even though many were common knowledge.
  NOW, that these documents not only admit to these programs, they reveal previously classified information that those individuals were paid restitution in excess of millions of dollars. This now allows Straight survivors to request or in our case demand full disclosure, restitution and admitting if proven that Straight was in fact a "experimental brainwashing and mind control". So, the release of those documents is a hurdle we have waited years to jump over. Yet, it is one of many as we all know.
However, we implore ALL survivors to familiarize yourself with those other experiments, get to know your congressman, and find as many documents as you can on the internet by simply typing in government admitting to mind control experiments or restitution paid to victims of mind control experiments. This will assist us in knowing that we will have ALL available documents concerning that part of the issue and it will assist each survivor in requesting restitution either as an individual or with the website as group when it goes online. However, do only what you can do in document collection without hurting or triggering your own PTSD that many of us suffer from. If it is too painful to read of other experiments or it brings too many memories back than please don’t. If not, we ask that you collect them, hold on to them and when the site goes up as a group, as fellow survivors as friends and a team we will be able to flood congress. We already have many documents but our intention is to bring boxes to a pre-assigned committee appointed by congress in a meeting with the committee to present the proof and demand restitution for all survivors. All survivors are welcome at this meeting.

   I think mh just wanted to make sure all survivors knew that there is case history, documentation that enables them to demand restitution it won’t be easy but at least the precedence is now there.

The details are in the above post in bold.
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Re: Body of Evidence Against The Sembler and Board of Direct
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Re: Body of Evidence Against The Sembler and Board of Direct
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2011, 09:00:22 PM »
Anon here again posting for m1978.
 I will ask the congressman this week if it is ok to use their name this early and get you as much
info as possiable.
It is difficult for me .anon, to post for m1978 because m1978 has trouble speaking due to the surgeries. It is not clear if m1978 voice will come back, it is very low and it is painful for m1978  to talk for any period of time. This along with other paralysis m1978 is facing and the heart trouble etc.
I will get what I can but even I don't know all the particulars and I am not a document expert. I do know the "hero" refered to in the orginal post
is as we know RB. That was a question sent to m1978 as well.
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Re: Body of Evidence Against The Sembler and Board of Direct
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Re: Body of Evidence Against The Sembler and Board of Direct
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2011, 12:47:09 AM »
Private message awaits you dragonfly.
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2011, 01:09:56 AM »
I have severe health problems.  KHK - formerly Straight Midwest

These health issues originated from my time at Kids Helping Kids (KHK) 86-88. Upon leaving the program I had night terrors, horrible insomnia, migraines and anxiety. I have had to take an assortment of sleep aid medications including anti-depressants for the chronic insomnia and migraine over the years, in one case resulting in a life threatening adverse reaction in 2006. I have had 3 strokes in the last 2 years. No known cause has been found for these strokes after thousands of dollars of medical testing.

I was recently diagnosed with Anxiety, Depression, Panic and PTSD. I was also recently diagnosed with 3 sleeping disorders after being tested at a hospital sleep clinic, finally proving what I had always known after more than 20 years. I start receiving treatment next week.

I am 39 and disabled since the second stroke last year.
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Re: Body of Evidence Against The Sembler and Board of Direct
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2011, 02:18:45 AM »
Anon here again for mh,
     Tommorow she has given me permission to list the medical issues so you don't feel alone in your suffering and I am certain other survivors
     have much the same along with back , shoulder, stomach issues. I know ISAC did a general survey of survivors years ago concerning this and
     like you the night terrors, insomnia , back, shoulder , neck issues were suffered by something like 89 percent of all survivors. I think that is close to the number ISAC had.
    Maybe, more survivors could post the medical issues they have suffered because I know the group will be asking congress for medical coverage much like is given to the army,navy etc. They will also be asking for past medical bills.
Here is a little secret EVERY pacemaker and back bill suffered by mh has been sent to oh I don't know lets say a big wig board member at Straight for over 28 years. EVERY SINGLE bill of 21 surgeries, ER visits, etc. They never paid them however, I think it was mh way of "We will never forget" nor will we as survivors ever let you "Straight Inc Board forget what crimes against humanity you have committed" how many lives were ruined and lost.
SLEEP WELL BETTY
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Re: Body of Evidence Against The Sembler and Board of Direct
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2011, 12:19:55 PM »
Anon here for mh again,

mh wanted me to post so you didn’t feel out there in medical “screwed” land alone. mh
also wanted me assure you many suffer the same thing. mh gave me permission to post this.

Mh has at one time or currently suffers from night terrors, nightmares, PTSD. mh also had her back issues begin the last few months of the time in Straight. Personally, I think the extent of the back and heart problems were due to the amount of time spent there. I believe mh was there something like four and half years. I believe or am told that at the time it was longer than anyone had been at that time. I know mh was the second or third youngest to ever receive a pacemaker in Florida.

I also know that mh as well as others suffered often from targeted beatings. I am sure many can attest to that. At any rate mh back problems have become so severe that she is dealing with partial paralysis to spite surgery on the neck twice. This has also caused her to almost loose her voice and it is painful for her to speak or type, brush teeth, all things that require the right arm as mh was right handed. mh is also suffering due to lower back surgeries and the severe weakening of the legs especially the right side.
She also suffered heart failure immediately following leaving Straight. mh heart had been failing for months prior and had mh remained for another three months she would have literally died inside Straight. period. THAT IS FOR YOU BETTY, IT IS MY OPINION THAT THE BLOOD ON YOUR
HANDS AND THE LIVES YOU DESTROYED IS NOT BLOOD OR SUFFERING YOU CAN WASH OFF. MY OPINION ONLY.

I know per mh doctors were certain that the complete heart failure and bad back at age 17 were a direct result of time and injuries accrued in Straight. mh had a pacemaker implanted right after leaving Straight. Mh has had to have a new pacemaker every five years since then, mh is now mid 40’s. mh faces a dangerous pacemaker lead removal surgery in six months. This surgery will be the last in that regard as they have run out of veins to place the leads in and if it fails again there will be little if anything they can do. Mh also faces another neck surgery that is needed but due to location much like the recent neck surgery is too dangerous at current.
Mh lower back is also made up of rods, pins, plates like mh neck.

Mh insisted that I post this as well; “Although the above seems very negative, depressing
ALL survivors are fighters and no matter what they insured that we suffer we have all fought back and MANY survivors have suffered much more than I. Please remember the fallen survivors in your thoughts and my encouragement comes from those that have
Suffered more than I and survived.”

mh has told me that ISAC did do a general study of medical conditions of survivors. The following were in the top 80 percent for all survivors that responded. This means over 80 percent of all survivors suffered; night terrors, nightmares, PTSD, shoulder problems, neck problems, neck problems, unexplainable strokes at early ages, vaso spasms, tachycardia and or anxiety. The difference was only in the degree and that of the 80 percent that suffered those it was more often than not severe in nature. It was so severe that a very large number of the 80 percent had to claim disability.

Then there are the untimely deaths. These deaths not only occurred at the time but many survivors are not living past the age of 55. There is also the large amount of suicide deaths among survivors.

I think if it each survivor that was willing to listed the medical problems they have suffered as a result of straight this could be beneficial to congress. Mh is working on a place where such documents or statements can be sent. They already have a large
number of these statements that I was not aware of but mh says they need all they can
get in that regard and it will be posted soon as to where the statement can be sent.
but hey for the heck of it, how many on this board suffered what mh and the other
survivor described, just curious.
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Re: Body of Evidence Against The Sembler and Board of Direct
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2011, 10:49:57 PM »
This may be a little off subject but when protesting Hephzibah House, many of the girls were investigating what appeared to be a large increase in health issues in comparison to the general population.  I would assume this might be a trend across most or all programs that use brainwashing, psychological torture and physical abuse as methods.
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Re: Body of Evidence Against The Sembler and Board of Direct
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2011, 12:13:01 AM »
Quote from: "wdtony"
This may be a little off subject but when protesting Hephzibah House, many of the girls were investigating what appeared to be a large increase in health issues in comparison to the general population.  I would assume this might be a trend across most or all programs that use brainwashing, psychological torture and physical abuse as methods.

Um, very likely.
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Re: Body of Evidence Against The Sembler and Board of Direct
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2011, 10:09:00 AM »
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Re: Body of Evidence Against The Sembler and Board of Direct
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2011, 10:15:09 AM »
Anon here again for mh,

OFF TOPIC SUBJECT:

mh says that some research was done into the physical effects of those coming out of WWASP. She remembers they were similiar
to those experienced by Straight Survivors. However, the expert to speak to on this issue according to her is Shelby.
You might want to contact Shelby and get that info and or find out out how to survery those kids from that house or
any program associated with it. Shelby according to mh did more to save the kids of WWASP than anyone she knows and
has a great deal of respect and trust for her. So, if she feels that if you don't know Shelby mh reassures that you may trust
her. Shelby should be and is one of the top survivors invovlved in getting documents not just for WWASP,
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2011, 08:55:25 AM »
hope this reply sends to your email asap and i sent you pm. see pm plse
Can you plse call Mike S. as
Mike S is suppose to come stop by today but our phone is not working and i woke up with a bad fever from this ear infection i have been fighting. i can not get a hold of him to tell him. i think our phone is out due to storm that came through late last night. PLSE SEE REST OF MESSAGE IN YOUR PM
THANKS SOO MUCH
TELL him ill call when my phone gets fixed
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