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kaydeejaded:
Also I do see your point I do in that they are overdoing everything.

Maybe I have taken waayyy to much child pysch this semester and it is finals week.

Like we did read about in my Sociology of the Familiy class about a 5yr old boy who was expelled for kissing a girl people are nutty.

School overload. I am here Ginger the brain is still thinking on both planes it is it is.  :idea:
It is the old practice of despots to use a part of the people to keep
the rest  in order; and those who have once got an ascendency and possessed themselves of  all the resources of the nation, their revenues and offices, have immense means  for retaining their advantages.
--Thomas Jefferson to John  Taylor, 1798
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Antigen:
Yeah, I really take all those psyche tests w/ a grain of salt. I file them away with those public service ads encouraging people to report child abuse on the merest suspicion.

Granted, child abuse is bad and sexual child abuse can really mess with a kid's mind. But a child abuse investigation, exam and all that entails is usually pretty damned traumatic too.

This shit should never have reached the level of making headlines in the first place. When my daughter was around 12 or 13 there was a boy in her class who thought it was funny as hell to grab all the girls and make them cry. They kept yelling at him, moving away, complaining to the teacher, etc. but he just wouldn't get the message. We told her to wait for the right moment when she had a clear shot and plenty of witnesses and put his balls back up into his belly with her foot. That solved the problem. Not only did the kid leave her alone, but he was very polite with the other girls, too, from that day forward.

To this day, I neither know or care what the kid's original damage may have been.

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much
liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.

--Thomas Jefferson, 1791, in a letter to Archibald Stuart
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Deborah:
Outrageous!  A couple of years ago an eight year old boy in my grandson's class was expelled for sexual harrassment. His crime- asked a class mate if she was wearing a bra !! Uh... I wondered the same thing. An eight year old wearing a bra? Perhaps she was a tad bit young to be dealing with that issues that might bring up. Hell, it could just as well been another girl asking or teasing her. What would it be label then? Could either of them distinguish between harrassment in general and sexual harrassment? I don't think so.

Ironically, the little girl on his hockey team at the time, dressed out in the same locker room with all the boys. This year (10) she has started going into the shower area.

What happened to discussion followed by an apology? Instead we have NO discussion and punishment. Too many times the kid never grocks what s/he actually did that was inappropriate.

I would like to see the girls have the opportunity to tell him how they felt about it. Ya know, Feedback. Guess that might be too risky for some, as it might have proven that is was less traumatic for the little girls than the adults.

Hopefully he'll get a wise counselor who'll help him understand the inappropriateness without heaping on tons of shame.

It's easy to see that these kind of insane reactions and unrealistic consequences heighten parents fears and is one reason they give for warehousing.

Anonymous:
Man, being a kid in a government school ruled by inane zero-tolerance policies is enough to give anybody a headache. Dumb ass search posse.

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Bossier School Board upholds Advil expulsion
Girl had over-the-counter pills in purse at school
Melody Brumble / The Times
Posted on December 5, 2003

A student expelled from Parkway High for a year for having Advil, an over-the-counter pain reliever, will not be allowed to return to the school.

Kelly Herpin and daughter Amanda Stiles, a sophomore, appealed the one-year expulsion to a Bossier Parish School Board committee Thursday night, spending about 10 minutes with the board's administrative committee behind closed doors.

The committee and the full board voted unanimously to uphold an administrative decision that Stiles be expelled to the alternative school.

School boards hold such hearings in a closed session, but parents have the right under state law to request that such sessions be open. Herpin didn't make that request but did speak to reporters after the hearing. She left before the board voted on her request but learned of its decision by phone.

"I'm not really sure at this point what we'll do," Herpin said. "I'm going to have to talk to my husband, and we're going to have to make some plans. I'm not sure we could afford a private school. We've been looking at moving to another area."

She would have to sue the School Board to continue fighting the expulsion.

Superintendent Ken Kruithof said after the board meeting that the school system is following a state law that requires a one-year expulsion and being consistent in the system's "zero-tolerance" policy.

But another school official said earlier Thursday that having medication on campus doesn't automatically lead to a one-year expulsion. "After an investigation and a hearing then, if necessary, punishment is administered. It could be no punishment," said Betty McCauley, Bossier schools student services director.

Disciplinary action can range from in-school suspension to placement at the system's alternative school or expulsion from the system. From Aug. 11 through Wednesday, 18 students were sent to the system's alternative school because of possessing "pills," according to a report system officials compiled. However, Kruithof said he didn't know if the category covered nonprescription, prescription and illegal drugs or only nonprescription drugs.

State guidelines define medication as "all prescription and nonprescription drugs," McCauley said Thursday afternoon. McCauley hears discipline appeals from parents dissatisfied with discipline imposed by school principals.

McCauley declined comment after the hearing, referring questions to Kruithof. So did District 11 board member Gary Dowden, who heads the administrative committee.

Kruithof didn't respond directly to questions about McCauley's statements but emphasized that state law requires a one-year expulsion.

Herpin considers Stiles an "average student" in both grades and behavior but said Stiles never got in serious enough trouble to warrant an expulsion. Kruithof said Stiles had other disciplinary incidents in the past but said he didn't know if they resulted in suspensions.

The search of Stiles' purse that turned up the medication came after a tip from a teacher about a student smoking at school. Herpin said her daughter was part of a group that was searched in response to the tip.

Kruithof said a teacher identifed Stiles as the student smoking a cigarette and that Stiles ran into a restroom, where a teacher searched only her purse.

No cigarettes or lighters were found. Stiles was not disciplined for tobacco-related violations.

Students caught smoking usually are suspended.

"I think a one-year expulsion for an over-the-counter medicine is pretty severe," Herpin said.

Stiles said she carried the medicine in her purse because she got frequent headaches.

"I just never thought about the fact that I could be searched. I think we're old enough to know how many (pills) we can take without overdosing or being in danger."

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