scien connection

[none-ya]

I may have jumped the gun a bit when I questioned the connection between scientology and the seed.
question mark, you may want to check this out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFEeEQy-vMs

[Paul St. John]

None-ya, I'm curious what made you mention a connection between the two.  Have you heard about or read something to this effect somewhere.  

Scientology and all these synanon-based TC's do have something in common from my viewpoint- mind-control.  It would not be completely amazing to me, if at some point, somewhere, there was some kind of connection, or even a quiet affiliation.


Just wondering where you came up with that...

Paul

[none-ya]

From here
viewtopic.php?f=64&t=37277
And then while screwing around I found that video,so I put it up there for a larf.
But it does seem that most mind control cults utilize the same tools and technics. Suggesting common ancestery (?).
Can anyone out there put L.Ron Hubbard and Art Barker together? I remember being in the mission district of San Francisco 1975. (2 years after my stint in the seed),and the church of scientology were recruiting deadbeats like us and any other hungry looking folks wandering by. Bribing us with soup and sandwiches to take a "survey". A 100 multiple answer quetions.
Everybody got the same "results" (sales pitch). "You're lost, you need direction, bla bla bla.." Of course if it is the human pyrimid scheme everbody claims it is, I could be doing ok by now! We did however have to show id to go in and eat, so for a couple of years my parents recieved scientology newsletters. My parents were convinced I had joined. They already thought I was crazy.

[Ursus]

Scientology and all these synanon-based TC's do have something in common from my viewpoint- mind-control.

Gee... and they all evolved during the span of WW II and the Cold War years, when the government was doing all that research on... mind control.

[Paul St. John]

Scientology and all these synanon-based TC's do have something in common from my viewpoint- mind-control.

Gee... and they all evolved during the span of WW II and the Cold War years, when the government was doing all that research on... mind control.

L. Ron Hubbard makes so many claims and mixes so much fact and fiction, that it is hard to know when he is telling the truth, but he does claim that the US government, actually approached him 'round that time period, and tried to pressure him into developing a means of mind-control for them, but the he resisted.

Ya know, I actually do think it is true, or there is some truth to it.  

Paul

[Paul St. John]

Hey None-ya..

I've dealt with them to an extent too, and have some input.. I don t have time to write it at the moment.. But wanted to thank ya for replying..


Paul

[Paul St. John]

From here
viewtopic.php?f=64&t=37277
And then while screwing around I found that video,so I put it up there for a larf.
But it does seem that most mind control cults utilize the same tools and technics. Suggesting common ancestery (?).
Can anyone out there put L.Ron Hubbard and Art Barker together? I remember being in the mission district of San Francisco 1975. (2 years after my stint in the seed),and the church of scientology were recruiting deadbeats like us and any other hungry looking folks wandering by. Bribing us with soup and sandwiches to take a "survey". A 100 multiple answer quetions.


I was working at a street fair in manhattan, when I came into contact with them.  There was a booth, with a bunch of people, wearing hats that said, " Your mind is your most powerful weapon".  All day I saw people going into their tent, and they had some kind of meters or something, I later found out were called " e-meters, that people were getting some kind of reading on.  I checked it out when I got a chance.  I have to be honest, the guy or actually kid I dealt with- probably round 18 or so, seemed like a really good person, with genuine intention- not a deceiver really.  Anyhow, I got a asked a couple of questions while hooked up top that meter..   Then he sold me Dianetics
Everybody got the same "results" (sales pitch). "You're lost, you need direction, bla bla bla.." Of course if it is the human pyrimid scheme everbody claims it is, I could be doing ok by now!

It's , I would say a similar model to a human pyramid scheme, except that you are not motivated by making money, but rather you just keep spending your money, motivated by a desire to be be good scientologist, spread scientology, and save the world, as well as the individuals within it. lol  Of course, somebody is making money, but I think it's only at the very top.  The paid "auditors", etc. at the churches , are pai9d almost nothing, and a lot is done by volunteering.  It is really the voluntary acts of the well-meaning scientologist that perpetuate the church, forever is making all the money.  Of course, it was L. Ron Hubbard, back in the day.  Today, I don t know who or how many.

 We did however have to show id to go in and eat, so for a couple of years my parents recieved scientology newsletters. My parents were convinced I had joined. They already thought I was crazy.

LMAO!  This part really made me laugh, because I was living with my pop's at the time when I bought the book, and while I am embaressed to admit it, I did check out the church at that time, and so they started calling my house.  I was never home at the times they called, so it was always my father and brother getting the calls.. who I told how I went there and such but really wasn t interested in it... So after a few weeks of them calling, and them telling them, that I wasn t interested, they finally got the message.... BUT for many years, after I moved out, they still received mail from the scientologists.. I mean- books magazines flyers.. you name it.. and a lot! Every time, I would visit my father, there would be like a fucking stack of Scientology shit on the steps, near the entrance way waiting for me, and this was after they already threw away all the things that were clearly scientology shit.  For the amount of money they spent on me, they could have built a few more churches..

Paul