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Biblical Reform School Discipline: Tough Love or Abuse?

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--- Quote from: "seamus" ---More of the "god wills it bunch" nothing new.
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It's continued perpetration of the same. Lester Roloff redux, if you will. From the above article,"Biblical Reform School Discipline: Tough Love or Abuse?" (By Susan Donaldson James; April 12, 2011; ABC News), emphasis added:

New Beginnings began as the Rebekah Home for Girls in Corpus Christie, Texas, in 1968, but was shut down by the state in 1985 after numerous investigations of abuse and its refusal to submit to state licensing.

Under changing names, the school moved temporarily to Devil's Elbow, Mo., before relocating in Pace, Fla., and eventually to its present home in La Russell, Mo.

The school was run by Lester Roloff, an independent fundamental Baptist preacher who broke from the Southern Baptist Convention in 1954 and founded a series of reform facilities, known as Roloff Homes, for what he called, "parent-hating, Satan-worshiping, dope-taking immoral boys and girls," according to a 2000 investigative report in Texas Monthly.[/list][/size]

Ursus:
Some more comments left for the above article, "Biblical Reform School Discipline: Tough Love or Abuse?" (by Susan Donaldson James; April 12, 2011; ABC News), #s 101-107:


Posted by: Light_Shed · Apr-15-2011
And Elisabeth, when I finally did go home after almost 3 years of being in the home, i asked my parents why I was there so long and couldn't come home, and they told me that They thought that I wanted to stay there because Bro. Mac was telling them that I didn't want to leave and that I wanted to finish up my schooling and stay and work on staff.. Which I never said AT ALL. And they told me that they were informed not to talk about any coming home or anything like during phone calls that because it would "distract me from the path i was focused on" (what ever the heck that was) So I have to question, why would the Macs Blatantly lie to my family and tell them that I SAID these things about wanting to stay ect?? I definitely didn't want to be there, so what did they have to gain from it other than more money??Posted by: turnhook · Apr-17-2011
Agrees totally ! And you answered your question. MONEY , the only damn reason ! Scammers , nothing but scammers. Money that sure isn't used for medical treatment , money that isn't used for clothing , not used for UP TO DATE food items ( unless it's something the Mac's and other staff wants ) , not used for certified schooling and teachers , etc......It pays for the Mac"s nice home and cars they drive...........And school ? What a joke ! Oh, they sell ya on it but it's all a lie. My daughter, as we speak is having to try and catch up because of the year spent there with no schooling...Posted by: brandy1428 · Apr-18-2011
I was the first girl in the home starting at the rebekah, that turned into the new beginnings, and most definitely everything is true. to say that it is not is true would be a lie. I came from a good girls home called Charity Haven the Macs worked at charity haven for a while that is where they picked up some experience. but most definitely I didn't go through that stuff at charity haven. they would make the girls stand on the wall for the entire day!!! if you deny it your lying, sanitary paper was rashioned!!! we couldn't talk we were on dorm silence the whole time. dorm silence was suppose to be as a temporary punnishment but it lasted about 2 yrs. the doors were taken off the hinges, if we were caught communicating it was considered talking and we got in trouble. I believe in God and I love Him, but these homes are suppose to help treat everyone like a robot !! thats what they wanted easy control of the dorm 98 girls and only four staff to take control !!! how else do you think they took control!Posted by: brandy1428 · Apr-18-2011
before I went to Rebekah aka new beginnings I was at charity haven and acted up and was disciplined for my actions, by the time I went to the Rebekah I knew don't act up or else. just because I was RARELY, VERY RARELY, and I worked on staff that is not to say I didn't see what I saw! I actually feel that I would love to work in a girls home again! But having girls stand on a wall for punnishment for 3 to 5 months straight is not righ, its just not right!!!! And it's also not right to punnish all 98 girls at the time for the actions of one girl !!! that would happen all the time. Also I remember durring the winter months when one of the girls got out of a straight line while walking to lunch we would have to stand there as punnishment for about a half an hour. then at about 2 or 3 in the morning he would wake us up with the fire alarm and say on the announcement everyone out, we would all run down the hall outside thinking there is a fire most of us didn't bother to get a sweater (because we though we were running from a fire) and he made us stand out there while he preached in like 30-40 degree weather and no sweater then we would just stand there for an hr. or two in the cold! that wasn't right that kind of punnishment isn't okPosted by: brandy1428 · Apr-18-2011
In total I was in homes for almost 5 YRS. honestly the fact that you don't get to communicate with anyone for so long left me unfit to even have a conversation or even sit for a job interview it felt so weird! and also that fact that we were constantly accused of stuff always left me explaining every detail of what i am doing even to this day, just for fear of getting falsely accused! when i first got out I had real night mares like I was running and they were trying to put me back in the home, thank God I had God and my man who is now my husband to help me.Posted by: brandy1428 · Apr-18-2011
These homes are fighting not to be state or government regulated because they know that the forms of discipline would not be accepted. why not have a home where the government can come in and check on things and make sure children are not being abused. why do they keep fighting because they know their forms of discipline are considered abuse!Posted by: itellyou · May-1-2011
A liitle wrong teaching contaminates the entire lesson! The denying of ourselves, which is to deny our own will, and submit to God´s will is strictly and only voluntary, never to be forced; the Lord looks for sincerity from a person, but sincerity can only be true when it is voluntary. This manner of doctrine does not at all represent Christ, but their own appetite.

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