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my mom wants to send me to abundent life academ
« on: February 28, 2011, 02:52:06 PM »
has anyone heard of that? She also said something bout some place in kansas that starts with a M I think. I'm really scared.
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Re: my mom wants to send me to abundent life academ
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 04:00:45 PM »
According to our datasheet Abundant Life Academy is located in Kanab. They had a department in Jessup, Georgia but it is no longer marketed.

However the owner has done his best to become very unpopular in the local community, so changes could be on the way. The owner is fighting local newspapers.

In Kansas one of the facilities we are monitoring was closed down. Meadowlark Academy remains open and there are rumors that new owners are coming in. Whether we are looking at a merger right now is hard to say.

To find out what the name of the place is, you should print out this article: Abundant Life Academy has employee shake-up (Southern Utah News) and put it where your mother can find it.

If it is Abundant Life Academy your mother is thinking of sending you to, she might hesitate. Use her minute of doubt to offer that you are willing to attend local therapy and play the nice daughter for a period until you are too old to be shipped off (Around 17,5 years most programs would deny to take you because they will have too little time to break you.)
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Re: my mom wants to send me to abundent life academ
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2011, 10:32:08 PM »
Chili,
Have your mother try some type of in home services with you before she sends you away.  Are you involved in the court system?  Why does she want to send you away?
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Re: my mom wants to send me to abundent life academ
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 02:13:03 PM »
My mom just doesnt want me around with her new hubbie. I get high and stuff and I hate school but she says Im out of control and defient. I got busted before but I'm not in the system now. So Im right tho these places suck and I should try to stay out of them? I tried crying and begging her and shit but her and hubbypoo just say enuogh is enough and Ive had too many chances and I need to learn consequences and Ill thank them later and like that. Also I just read that article and that guy is scarey.  My mom isnt even christian! But her new hubbypoo is.
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Re: my mom wants to send me to abundent life academ
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2011, 03:52:52 AM »
Quote from: "chili"
My mom just doesnt want me around with her new hubbie. I get high and stuff and I hate school but she says Im out of control and defient. I got busted before but I'm not in the system now. So Im right tho these places suck and I should try to stay out of them? I tried crying and begging her and shit but her and hubbypoo just say enuogh is enough and Ive had too many chances and I need to learn consequences and Ill thank them later and like that. Also I just read that article and that guy is scarey.  My mom isnt even christian! But her new hubbypoo is.

The system is normally out there to protect children and in this case it can be an option but it would not be fun. You should approach the Child Protective Services and ask to be placed in a group home based on the article from Southern Utah News. You can claim that the option your mother wants is a violation of your religious beliefs. The boyfriend might even get refund from the church he attends if he can send a client to one of these re-education homes. You will be surprised about to learn how the money flow is in such cases.

You might have to enter a contract with the authorities and it would demand that you stay clean of drugs and alcohol. You also should participate in schooling at least for show. It is a price you might find high to pay, but it would be 1000 better than the residential option your mother has in mind for you.

Your mother might not be Christian but she might have been dragged into this sometime toxic environment. If that is the case you cannot do anything for her, but you have to look out for yourself and the best possible option is the play the nice daughter until you have found the right solution by the Child Protective Services.

A last "life jacket" you might have ready just in case you are sent to one of these places is to place an enclosed envelope by one of your friends. Should you disappear, your friend can the send the envelope to the police (Often girls like you are jumped by professional transporters by night and dragged to schools like this in handcuffs and shackles). The envelope should have a confession inside where you claim that you have been touched inappropriate by a male person in your household and that you fear that you will be taken somewhere where you will be forced into permanent silence about this episode. The authorities will be looking for you very fast and the school will be forced to release you pending the investigation. Such an investigation will take time and you will spend the time in a public group home for your safety. It is not a good solution but still better than spending your life at such a school until you are 18 or you are so broken down that you not will dare to speak to your mother again without permission.
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Re: my mom wants to send me to abundent life academ
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2011, 04:18:55 AM »
Quote from: "Oscar"
Quote from: "chili"
My mom just doesnt want me around with her new hubbie. I get high and stuff and I hate school but she says Im out of control and defient. I got busted before but I'm not in the system now. So Im right tho these places suck and I should try to stay out of them? I tried crying and begging her and shit but her and hubbypoo just say enuogh is enough and Ive had too many chances and I need to learn consequences and Ill thank them later and like that. Also I just read that article and that guy is scarey.  My mom isnt even christian! But her new hubbypoo is.

The system is normally out there to protect children and in this case it can be an option but it would not be fun. You should approach the Child Protective Services and ask to be placed in a group home based on the article from Southern Utah News. You can claim that the option your mother wants is a violation of your religious beliefs. The boyfriend might even get refund from the church he attends if he can send a client to one of these re-education homes. You will be surprised about to learn how the money flow is in such cases.

You might have to enter a contract with the authorities and it would demand that you stay clean of drugs and alcohol. You also should participate in schooling at least for show. It is a price you might find high to pay, but it would be 1000 better than the residential option your mother has in mind for you.

Your mother might not be Christian but she might have been dragged into this sometime toxic environment. If that is the case you cannot do anything for her, but you have to look out for yourself and the best possible option is the play the nice daughter until you have found the right solution by the Child Protective Services.

A last "life jacket" you might have ready just in case you are sent to one of these places is to place an enclosed envelope by one of your friends. Should you disappear, your friend can the send the envelope to the police (Often girls like you are jumped by professional transporters by night and dragged to schools like this in handcuffs and shackles). The envelope should have a confession inside where you claim that you have been touched inappropriate by a male person in your household and that you fear that you will be taken somewhere where you will be forced into permanent silence about this episode. The authorities will be looking for you very fast and the school will be forced to release you pending the investigation. Such an investigation will take time and you will spend the time in a public group home for your safety. It is not a good solution but still better than spending your life at such a school until you are 18 or you are so broken down that you not will dare to speak to your mother again without permission.


Where in any of chilli's posts does it say if chilli is male or female?
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Re: my mom wants to send me to abundent life academ
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2011, 05:29:31 AM »
Quote from: "none-ya"
Where in any of chilli's posts does it say if chilli is male or female?

Sorry - my mistake
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Re: my mom wants to send me to abundent life academ
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2011, 10:30:38 PM »
Prepare for your escape now.  Figure that your Mom is likely to have you abducted. An escort service relatively cheap and there are dozens of them.  You will wake up with a couple strangers in your room telling you to get dressed and that you have no choice but to come with them. From that point onward, they will have one hand on your arm and one finger in your belt-loop. And you will be in the backseat of a car whose doors do not open from the inside.  They will take away your cellphone and it could be years before you are allowed to have communication with anyone who could help you.  They depend on your disorientation and confusion to get you away from where it is easy for you to escape to someplace where it is less easy.

I can only guess at the best methods for escaping.  In one case, I believe the kid being abducted attacked the person driving the car causing a car wreck. He told the police officers who investigate the wreck that he was being kidnapped. The escort service personnel were arrested and charged with assault and battery. I do not believe risking your life or the life of others is a reasonable response to even a desperate situation like this.

If the escort people use any force against you, there is a strong chance they may be liable for criminal offenses.  Just remember, they will lie to you. They will claim that your parents have given them permission to use physical force. In many states, that is not possible. Get the attention of a police officer and tell them what is happening. Your best chance of escaping may be while you are being escorted.  Make a scene in a public place and let people know you are being kidnapped. Yell for help, scream. I would consider yelling things like "Help, I am being kidnapped." and maybe even "Call 911. They have a gun."

Figure that most of the time you will be headed for a facility in Utah. Depending on where you are, you will be going through an airport. You might consider making a scene at the security checkpoint, refusing to allow being searched and claim that you are being kidnapped. Then, when they ask for a contact person, give them the phone number of a friend or a relative who has agreed to help you.

If they get you to a wilderness program, you are pretty much screwed. They are incredibly difficult to successfully escape. If you do happen to escape, and you are in Utah, figure that everyone you see in the surrounding area are in the 'Troubled Teen' industry. Here are some ideas you might consider.  If you hitch-hike, tell who ever picks you up that you are a college student that is hitchhiking across the USA. Tell them that you were riding with someone else and got out of the car to take a piss and the driver left with all your stuff. Tell them you have a friend waiting for you in Las Vegas, so if you can just get there you will have money and will be ok.

If you get into a program, you probably will have plenty of opportunities. It appears to be relatively easy to walk away from the program. The big trick is that the programs have plenty of experience in looking in the places where kids tend to go. Possibly in most cases, the kids run with no plan and if they do not get caught in the few minutes or hours after they escape, they realize they have no place to go and just walk back into the program.

The only successful case of a kid running away from a program that I am aware of, involved a kid who took some money from his mom's purse each time she visited him at the program in Utah. When he was at a local park skateboarding, he paid some kids there to drive him to Las Vegas and bought a driver's license from one of them. From Las Vegas, he took an airplane to stay with friends he had met playing internet games. He stayed with those friends for nearly a year until he turned 18.  His mom spent over $100,000 searching for him but was unable to find him. His mom sent police after his adult sister and obtained her phone records trying to find him. His sister had used an internet service to talk with him.

Some of the things he did include: 1) He acted like he was making plans 3 or 4 months out even when he was ready to leave within a few days. 2) Whenever other kids would talk about running away, he always told them it was impossible. No matter how close of a friend you think they are, they will turn you in. It is part of the program. Never trust anyone in the program. Act like you have drank the kool-aide; these guys have more experience dealing with defiance than you do being defiant.  3) figure out how to squirrel some money away. He had close to $1,000 by the time he escaped. He lived for almost a year on that money. 4) It took him almost a year from the time he was first abducted until he successfully escaped. 5) He escaped on his first attempt. You almost never get a second chance.

NEVER NEVER NEVER call your parents if you run. They always call the program and the program comes and picks you up.  The program does an orientation with your parents as part of putting you in the program, and in that orientation, they give your parents instructions on how to handle it if you run away and call them. The program's instructions are something like, be sympathetic, tell the kid that the parent is going to come and pick up the kid and bring them home, and then call the program to come and pick you up.

Try to have a friend or relative who will help you be prepared in advance. Even better if it is someone that your parents do not know.
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Re: my mom wants to send me to abundent life academ
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2011, 02:43:13 AM »
@oscar -

I can confirm that ALA is NOT in Jesup, GA.  They WERE in the running to buy out the old Three Springs Wayne County facility there, but it never materialized.  Instead Teen Challenge bought the property and set up their "ELC" program there - Emerging Leaders College - a place for young adults 16 and above whom are looking to strengthen their abilities.  Teen Challenge has other programs here in Georgia that I believe are equally as dangerous and abusive as ALA, Three Springs et. al.
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Re: my mom wants to send me to abundent life academ
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2011, 10:33:27 AM »
Quote
Right wing lunatic wrote:

"Emotionally immature
Making poor personal choices
Acts entitled
Plays the victim
Blames their poor choices on everyone but themselves
Lying, sneaking out, isolating from family
Experimenting with sex, alcohol, and drugs
Rejecting their Christian heritage
Rebelling against parental authority
Looking for acceptance in the wrong places
Poor peer choices (new group of troubled friends)
Academically unmotivated: thinking that academic pursuit is no longer a part of their vision"


They sound like normal teenagers. Anyone here that says they've never experienced any of these conditions as a teenager is a liar.  There're only children. not little adults. Just kids for "Christ's sake!"
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Re: my mom wants to send me to abundent life academ
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2011, 07:45:25 AM »
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