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« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2004, 05:26:00 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2004, 07:07:00 PM »
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« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2004, 10:18:00 PM »
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« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2004, 10:25:00 PM »
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« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2004, 10:29:00 PM »
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« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2004, 11:28:00 PM »
I went to Cedu because raising a child was too mundane for them and they had the money.  I wasn't suicidal, had stopped using drugs months prior to attending (it was rec use only), I had no eating or other disorder. I was underachiever at school in part due to deafness and I had low self esteem. Even if I had the other problems, CEDU was not the answer.  

DO NOT SEND YOUR CHILD THERE.

They use heavy doses of emotional and psychological abuse to control the kids.  THey also manipulate the parents and isolate them from the kids.  We could talk to our parents over the phone for 15 minutes every two weeks.  Those calls were monitored as were our letters to make sure we didn't speak ill of the school.  

The staff psychologically abused the students in heavy emotionally and verbally barrage many times weekly.  They demean and humiliate you to break you down.  They lie to you about your parents and your parents about you in order to keep you there.  (One example is they told my parents I was addicted to drugs and would die if I left.  A big joke since I quit a twice-a-month habit and I've never done it since six months before entering CEDU.)  Also, my parents never lied to me UNTIL we went to CEdu. In addition, I was always honest even when it got me in trouble but the staff continually harass you to fabricate stories so they get off your ass.  Most kids fell for this.  

The staff also brainwash the older kids who have put in time and promote them for bullying and spying the other kids and even new staff.

When parents vist their kids once every three months, they visit on-campus.  After the visit, the staff meet back with your parents to program them and feed them lies in order to stop them for pulling you out.  When my Dad questionned some of their tactics, they ridiculed him and manipulated my Mom.  

You know what would have helped me? 2 parents who believed in me and a two-week Outward Bound program.

By the way, after you leave the program, your kid will likely have long-term trust and bonding issues because CEDU isolates you and programs you to think the outside world is evil.  This was a big part of me not attaching to others.

In all fairness, I did leave in 1987. Maybe things have changed but I doubt it.

I really hope you think twice, but if you do it, know they are skilled with bullshit every time they talk to you and all their missives home are directly aligned with the goal of keeping your kid there.

Be creative and find another way.
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« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2004, 12:05:00 AM »
Welcome, Anon. This is some fascinating stuff. I was in Straight, Inc. from `80 - `82. Lot of similarities.

Antibody?, you know me too well! :wink:

I don't think it's a lack of state oversite. I think these are really local matters that have not been attended. I think the reason they have not been attended goes back to a bit of slight of mind played on the American ppl (and many other good countries before us)

The plan seems to have been to find an issue that would expand Socialist authority to unimaginable lengths but that the right would embrace like a long lost child.  

And so we have the invention of a mythical counterculture that seems to be identified by any and all things that might excite the interest of a young person. And it's all taboo. It's so obvious in a place like So. Florida. There's a beach that's unofficially reserved for retirees. Since it would be illegal under their own age discrimination laws to officially ban children from the beach, they can't exactly say it. But, when I first moved into the Deerfield area, I found out about the policy.

Anyone w/ kids should go to the north side of the peer. On the south side, there are rules like no bikes, no kites, no beach balls and no floatation devices of any kind. But they can't say "no kids allowed" so, instead, a young and well built lifeguard runs from her tower to stop you before you can spread out a towel to inform you of the rules.

Young people who do not identify strongly w/ the White Anglo Saxon Protestant ideal are dangerous animals to be controled. They're not really human, after all, and these longsuffering martyrs are spending their best years fighting to make them human again. We don't want to know the details of how they go about it.

I think I understand why So. Florida is so prone to this kind of mental illness. It's marketed predominantly to people who value low heating bills over having a direct hand in raising grandkids. But I see the seeds of that kind of thinking. I'm as sensitive to it as a Cuban to Communism. :wink:

That, not a lack of regulation, is the root of the problem as I see it.

It is already illegal to do many of the things that pass for normal in the cloistered culture of the Troubled Parent/Private Teen Prison industry. Those laws are not enforced because of a cultural issue.

What we need is a way to explain to the conservatives that the drug war and the war on young people who ask too many questions is the pan-ultimate New Deal program. "Better living through oursourcing private, family matters". Rich ppl think they're safe cause they can send their kids off to a private facility. But it's those same laws and enforcement standards that send poor kids to prison that are fueling the market for these programs.

It is, in fact, the largest, most expensive failed aspect of the New Deal and they should not embrace it.

When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans ...... And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it. That's what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the public housing projects, about how we're going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make people safer in their communities.
-- Bill Clinton, 3-22-94

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« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2004, 01:42:00 AM »
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« Reply #38 on: April 07, 2004, 01:49:00 AM »
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« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2004, 10:01:00 PM »
Howdy,

Just came across this site.  I am a former employee of Cedu.  I worked there for around 7 years and had such jobs as an admissions counselor, counselor, and Resource Coordinator.  I am now in my Master's Degree program for Social Work.  I definitely have mixed feelings about my employment at Cedu. You can contact me about Cedu, but I would rather remain un-named.  You can reach me at [email protected].

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« Reply #40 on: April 11, 2004, 04:12:00 PM »
You should say what you feel here instead of trying to hide it.

Your hidden ideas are so CEDU. You folks hide everything. But you never succeed in the long run.

Remember when I told you it would work in the short but not the long run?

You are still full of Baloney - as always
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« Reply #41 on: April 11, 2004, 04:29:00 PM »
Fucking Right! INDICTMENT think of this as time traveling honesty! You bunch of ex-staff pussies.....You had a fucking chance to help, to rectify the situation, but you did not. Goddamn pussies, now you want to cry and tell us how sorry you all are???? You don't have to tell us, we were there. And through our rose colored glasses, we could see we were in a world of shit. Some of those days all it would have taken was a little leniency, a kind word, but no, nothing but Fuck-up inferences, calling people out on their private shit in front of everybody, that is so fucked up. You could have done something about it, we couldn't. We could either go along and get along, or get sent to lock-downs. And by the way for those of you keeping score, Lockdowns had none of this brainwashing shit, just bars and a slightly more violent general population. Probably had real counselors that could exercise good judgement for you. CEDU, Synanon, straight.....see you in hell
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« Reply #42 on: April 11, 2004, 10:27:00 PM »
Wow. I can see you are enraged. I don't blame you. However, we all did not do those things. I refused to - consistently. I was constantly pissing them off because I refused to belittle kids, I refused to go along with the program. I was always kind and told the kids I believed in them. They loved me. Parents and kids were devastated when I left. Parents called me at home after I disappeared. Lots of kids were pulled then. Parents begged me to stay, but, I had to leave because working there was making me sick. I went to work there to help kids. I left because I could not be a part of it all. I was in trouble a lot there.

As for the other staff, I don't know. Some who felt as I did told me that at least they knew that they were being kind and decent and if they left, they would be leaving kids with those horrible people. I still get letters from kids, years later, telling me how they appreciated my kindness and my absolute faith in them.

Staff who were unkind were ignorant and plenty of them were on sick power trips. Others were gullible and believed what they were taught. People make mistakes - even mistakes that hurt others. Some people have terrible remorse. Please allow yourself to forgive those who ask you. Harboring hatred hurts only you. The best revenge is living well!

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"Fucking Right! INDICTMENT think of this as time traveling honesty! You bunch of ex-staff pussies.....You had a fucking chance to help, to rectify the situation, but you did not. Goddamn pussies, now you want to cry and tell us how sorry you all are???? You don't have to tell us, we were there. And through our rose colored glasses, we could see we were in a world of shit. Some of those days all it would have taken was a little leniency, a kind word, but no, nothing but Fuck-up inferences, calling people out on their private shit in front of everybody, that is so fucked up. You could have done something about it, we couldn't. We could either go along and get along, or get sent to lock-downs. And by the way for those of you keeping score, Lockdowns had none of this brainwashing shit, just bars and a slightly more violent general population. Probably had real counselors that could exercise good judgement for you. CEDU, Synanon, straight.....see you in hell"
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« Reply #43 on: April 11, 2004, 10:34:00 PM »
I am one of the ex-staff who tried to change things.  For that I was attacked by staff and students.  I actually had students who told me that they needed to be screamed at in order to change their thinking.  That's what iI call a cult.
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« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2004, 02:40:00 AM »
Does anyone happen to have the boulder creek moron lounge(formally know as the bridge) phonenumber.  I have been looking for it, and any help would be appreciated. :wink:
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