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Anonymous:
http://www.assyrianvoice.org/homes_for_ ... _teens.htm

It is registered to someone named JW Starks in Cincinnati, Ohio

Thanks!

Antibody?:
They all make money by referring to schools - There are 700 GULAGS in the US and MORE educational consultants who refer to them. Time for revolution?

Anonymous:
Skip revolution.  Just change the damned laws so that placement out of country triggers custody hearings, and placement in country requires both a court order, with the teen represented by a family and childre's services caseworker AND a psychological/psychiatric evaluation of the parent(s) and/or all adults living in the household with the teen.  If significant mental troubles on the part of one or more of the adults is found, allow the teen to opt to try foster care FIRST.

Also, evaluation triggering court order must be with  court appointed expert, not parent-selected expert.

Make criteria for commitment and of [ a) imminent danger to self; or b) imminent danger to others; or c) delinquent behavior ] AND setting is least restrictive option necessary to provide treatment.

IOW, except for c, the same criteria for involuntarily committing an adult.

Provide that kidlet has to be transferred to least restrictive setting as soon as imminent danger that triggered commitment is stabilized.

Make failure to adhere to standards on part of parents count evidence parents are unfit, so even if authorities wink, wink, nudge, nudge and let the parent get the teen there, other relatives can fight them for custody.

spots:
Love it, love it, love it!!!  Don't complain if you can't come up with some solution!  Very good ideas here.  

These parameters aren't even earth-shaking...more like common sense.  Use laws to:

a) make it impossible to incarcerate on a whim,
b) make it illegal to abuse children (duh), and set down and ENFORCE such laws [solitary confinement, food deprivation, physical restraint are already "illegal", so why can these BM facilities get away with it?]
c) make it have consequences of great magnitude for violations of the above.

Antigen:
It all sounds pretty good, but remember that these people already break laws all the time. It's just damned near impossible to get law enforcement to act against them.

The Baker Act was initially supposed to do all that you propose here. Here's how the State of Florida acually applies it:
http://www5.myflorida.com/cf_web/myflor ... alth/laws/

It's already illegal to drug or shackle anyone except under strict guidelines pertaining to law enforcement and medical/mental health facilities and professionals. You just try getting the DOJ to act against unlicensed 'escorts' who advertise right out in the open that they break these laws every day for a living.

Trying to hem these people in with more laws while the public and law enforcement are largely in their camp is going to be about as effective as sending up a chain of command that staff doesn't want to get. You'll spend a whole lot of time, money and hope trying to force the legislature to change the language in various statutes. But the industry will respond quicker and more easily than that by pretending to comply with the spirit of the law, just as they've always done.

I think the only real value in pursuing new laws is that it will at least generate debate and investigation. At the end of the day, though, we are living in a society that wants to believe that teenagers are dangerous and hostile beasts that need to be broken, tamed and trained like wild horses. That has to change. It's a much bigger problem than just some legal language. But I think it's what we have to deal with.


If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson

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